I do remember now that Gwen made out with her as well.

That episode was not the most sensible of the series.

although I still think he's a creep.

Oh, he's a total asshole. He's a selfish, cruel, petty little man.

Pushing Daisies - from the National Ledger:

KNITTING UP "DAISIES": Viewers of this season's instant hit "Pushing Daisies" are going to get an eyeful of mighty interesting knit work made by Chi McBride's character, private investigator Emerson Cod. The behind-the-scenes talent responsible is celebrity knitting guru, author, designer and owner of the popular Studio City, Calif., knitting yarn emporium, La Knitterie Parisienne, Edith Eig. Eig has been a formidable force in the knitting world for years, pushing the craze to knitting fanatics from Virginia Madsen to Catherine Zeta Jones.

For "Pushing Daisies," research was first and foremost on the agenda, and Eig was up for the task, teaching Chi the art of knitting. Her expertise was further employed when she was asked to custom design and hand knit a selection of one-of-a-kind props for the show. In a matter of days, she wielded her knitting needles to stitch up items including two gun holsters in red suede yarn, 10 "money bags" (aka socks), a tissue box, coasters, a pencil holder, a coffee-mug cozy, a desk file organizer, and a warm cable-knit scarf in a gold, cream and green tweed.

oh, I did love the gun cozies ... makes me wish I knew how to knit (if I needed another craft!).

I keep waiting for them to use a line about "(someone) speaks only to Cod".

It's weird, because I've loved many incredibly unsympathetic characters in my years of fandom. In terms of the objective balance of scales between right/wrong, Owen totally wins over, say, Jim Profit or Dexter Morgan -- two monstrous characters whom I adore. Yet, the dude just rubs me wrong past the point of redeemability. And it's not the actor, either, because I think Burn Gorman was quite good in Ep. 3 of TW (and I loved him as Mr. Guppy in the BBC adaptation of Bleak House.)

Ah, well. Different strokes and all that. And I shall stop frothing at my mouth, because that's not so pretty to look at.

ETA: I want Emerson's handgun cozies! Even though I don't have a gun, let alone two, and I hate guns and have never held one in my life, but those are all minor things. Gun cozies! WANT!

Cereal:

OK, just above the item about Pushing Daisies and the knitting in the article sumi linked? There is a short blurb about Tracy Scoggins in which she likens the fandom for her gay vampire show, Dante's Cove, to the Babylon 5 fandom. This is only funny to those who've actually had the dubious pleasure of watching more than 15 minutes of Dante's Cove, which is, like, THE worst show I've ever seen in my life. (Damn those evil pushers at VVC!) It's so bad, it's almost like an absurdist art. In the corner of the small yet loyal B5 fandom, there must be a contingent who's having a conniption at the comparison right now. Well, it's not like they didn't hate Scoggins already.

Owen is a creepy rapist fuckwit and a selfish repulsive troll who should have been eaten by mountain bears, like, yesterday.

Finally, someone with the same opinion of Owen that I have. "Selfish repulsive troll" really gets it. Or maybe selfish repulsive result of an unnatural union between a troll and a marsh wiggle.

Ok, here's the thing about Owen, first we see him acting skanky or possibly a rapist. Then the same kind of impulse is turned against him in a later episode, and finally he witnesses an actual rape via the alien ghost thing and tries to kill the rapist. I think there has been a progression on where he stands on the issue of forced sex.

Also, I think he kissed Gwen in the morge drawer to shut her up. and then it got more interesting than was planned. I don't hate Owen. I think he started out as a letche and has changed. I think the things that have happened to him have been the writers' intentional reforming of his character.

I actually dislike him more after seeing Countrycide. That stunt with Gwen in the woods was very unpleasant. (side note: why did they beep Sharon Osborne saying "tick my box", but yet Owen got to say "when's the last time you came so hard you didn't know where you were" Maybe a timing issue with 8PM versus 10PM?)

I also have come to the conclusion that I don't like Gwen. She supposed to be the "heart" of the team, but she does a lot of stupid shit. I don't know how I'd react to being shot, but I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't try to stop someone from helping me. I also think that she's an idiot for sleeping with Owen. Okay, I don't think that the relationship with Reese was going to go anywhere, but Owen was stupid for a lot of reasons 1 - you don't fuck your coworkers, especially when they've shown themselves to be immature gits. 2 - it's a bad idea to fuck someone that your co-worker OBVIOUSLY has a thing for.

wrong thread!

Chuck, your chick-fu is still weak.