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Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2007 5:48:57 am PDT #7155 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Am I missing some horrific subtexty something on why this was an episode that would drive people from the show? I know Jack was seriously harsh, but not much more so than some of the stuff that the Doctor has done recently.

I think it was another nail in the "these people have no sense or morals" coffin. Which it's hard to disagree with.

Yeah, for me, Frank, it was that shot of the entire team pumping bullets into Lisa as if it were cool and not extremely disturbing. These are our protagonists?


Dana - Oct 05, 2007 5:51:12 am PDT #7156 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, really? To me, that was "Shoot her, shoot her now, shoot her dead very dead so she doesn't kill us all."


Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2007 5:56:58 am PDT #7157 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

There was that too, but I found the image really off, especially because, if I recall, she didn't seem superduperdangerous at that point. And she was a not-threatening-looking woman. And they really didn't need a thousand bullets to do that job.


sumi - Oct 05, 2007 5:57:43 am PDT #7158 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

But, they're experience was that Cybermen were pretty darn near invincible - would you really second guess that?


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2007 5:57:55 am PDT #7159 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You shoot cybermen a lot. It's the only way to be sure.


Tom Scola - Oct 05, 2007 5:59:46 am PDT #7160 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

You impale the Cyberman with your Gold Star that you received for Mathematical Excellence. That'll work.


Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2007 6:01:37 am PDT #7161 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Eh, okay. It still squicked me out.


askye - Oct 05, 2007 6:01:56 am PDT #7162 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

She was claiming she wouldn't hurt anyone but she was still a Cyberwoman, when she was talking to Ianto she said they could "upgrade" to be together. I think that's the right term, but she was still using Cyberman terminology when talking about them being together.

Actually, it sort of reminded me of Firefly when everyone shoots and kills Nsika.


Dana - Oct 05, 2007 6:03:16 am PDT #7163 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

if I recall, she didn't seem superduperdangerous at that point.

Hadn't she already survived attack by pterodactyl? (You have to admit, there's not a lot of shows where you can make that comment.)

P-C, did you watch the episodes of Dr. Who that dealt with the Cybermen, especially the S2 finale? Just curious to see if that affects your perspective.


Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2007 6:11:38 am PDT #7164 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, I know all about Cybermen. It was just weird to watch because she was a woman.