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'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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DebetEsse - Sep 29, 2007 4:52:00 pm PDT #6959 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

::handwavy handwavy Torchwood can't save the day hand!wavy!:::

Martha's is done up that way, too.

Oh! Here we go. They can't use cel phones, because of Archangel, so it wouldn't help.


sumi - Sep 29, 2007 4:54:09 pm PDT #6960 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Didn't the Doctor fix the Archangel thing?

Also, I know we saw Toshioko in the fight at the wharf but did we see Ianto and Lisa?


Juliebird - Sep 29, 2007 5:10:33 pm PDT #6961 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

wow, I only caught the last half of Torchwood, so knowing nothing of the plot leading up, that kinda blew. I'm very interested to know why the film looked so different, and also so bad. It's the same as with many other otherwise decent British shows where the video (I'm guessing) footage reads so poorly. Like I'm seeing a show made from a home video (VHS) camera. It just degrades the quality of the acting and sets and lighting so very very much. Or is it a certain/standard film type that failed to get a certain treatment to "polish" it up?

Anyhow, I wasn't impressed, and I still miss my happy-go-lucky Captain Jack from his DW days. How did DW turn out so good (as a "kids" show) and TW turn out so wrong? I mean, with a fun character like Jack Harkness, how did the more adult aspect of the show totally negate/destroy that? I would've thought it would have allowed the essence of Jack to come out more, but... no.


sumi - Sep 29, 2007 5:14:28 pm PDT #6962 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I don't think that Cyberwoman is one of the better episodes of the series. Have you seen the rest of it yet, Juliebird?


DCJensen - Sep 29, 2007 5:17:43 pm PDT #6963 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I'm hoping Jack's reuniting with the doctor will clear up some issues, and he will puzzle the torchwoodeers with the change...


sumi - Sep 29, 2007 5:22:29 pm PDT #6964 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, when he was on his own or with the Doctor he wasn't really responsible for anyone else, was he?


le nubian - Sep 29, 2007 6:28:24 pm PDT #6965 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm about 8 eps into Torchwood, and there is an excellent couple of eps in that group. I find the show pretty uneven, but the 8th ep (I think it is) is really really good IMO.


tiggy - Sep 29, 2007 7:32:28 pm PDT #6966 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Also, I know we saw Toshioko in the fight at the wharf but did we see Ianto and Lisa?

we did? i don't recall seeing her. Freema was playing a different character and that's when RTD fell in looooooooooove with her, but i don't remember seeing Tosh.

I still miss my happy-go-lucky Captain Jack from his DW days

you are so not alone in this. i'm really hoping that season two of TW will improve now that Jack knows why he's immortal. he was full of angst because he didn't know why he couldn't die and why the Doctor and Rose had left him. now he knows...


Juliebird - Sep 30, 2007 2:14:29 am PDT #6967 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Have you seen the rest of it yet, Juliebird?

no, I gave up trying to ahem after not being impressed with the first few eps.

I do hope that Jack's experience back on DW truly does affect season 2 of TW, but there's just so much more wrong with it than just a broody Cpt. Jack Harkness. The entire premise that he can't die, and we learn on DW that he's been waiting for hundreds of years and been killed a dozen times over... that sucks.

So I get why Jack now is the way he is, but I don't get why RTD made him that way, why he deliberately destroyed what we loved about Jack.


Theodosia - Sep 30, 2007 3:36:59 am PDT #6968 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm not sure I have watched "Cyberwoman" since the first time I saw it ahemed, since it's by far my "Bad Eggs" episode of the series! What I really noticed this time through, on the bigger, nicer screen on the TV is how lousy the video was, looking cheap as though done on my brother's camera. I suppose they were trying to suggest the low-light condition of the shut-down base, but it SO didn't work.

Gwen has such a deer in the headlights look, far too often. But then cyborg Vs pterodactyl fights aren't exactly in the police academy curriculum. "What's all this, then?" just doesn't do it.