She's terse. I can be terse. Once in flight school, I was laconic.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Typo Boy - Sep 19, 2007 7:55:49 pm PDT #6694 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But really, dude, you've been out with her once. That doesn't entitle you to lay down the law on who she's interested in. I suppose it was meant to read as him being vulnerable and admitting his attraction, but it came off as domineering and possessive.

And that does make me hate him. Along with the whole "your job isn't really important or challenging" thing. She's a forkin cop in a town full of dangerously crazy people.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2007 8:18:10 pm PDT #6695 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm mostly okay with the dry cleaning lady calling to chat--it's how discouraged you get when you don't get what you want that counts.

I totally get Zane not liking watching Jo kiss Carter. But dude, don't sound so bratty about it.


WindSparrow - Sep 19, 2007 8:48:59 pm PDT #6696 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

But really, dude, you've been out with her once. That doesn't entitle you to lay down the law on who she's interested in. I suppose it was meant to read as him being vulnerable and admitting his attraction, but it came off as domineering and possessive.

I'm not crazy about Jo/Zane as a 'ship (and I am rather disappointed that Jo isn't ignoring his attentions), but I rather liked the "I didn't like that". It felt to me an honest and somewhat modest statement of feeling rather than overboard domineering jealousy. I thought Zane was merely putting out there that he likes Jo enough to not want to watch her sucking face with some other guy. We already know he's a self-centered, arrogant, unthinking jerk - this just doesn't seem like an arrogant, unthinking expression. Of course, at the moment I can see the same lines coming out of Colin's mouth, and being utterly controlling in a very sinister fashion, as he gets his evil on the way ita promises he can. It goes almost without saying that he wouldn't be in character as Sheriff Tightpants Grabass Carter.

And that does make me hate him. Along with the whole "your job isn't really important or challenging" thing. She's a forkin cop in a town full of dangerously crazy people.

See, yeah, Zane is arrogant and unthinking, and so self-centered, I can see how he has not bothered to process Jo's value to the community, and the fact that she is extremely good at a job that few people can do, one that takes not only native talent and intelligence, but dedicated learning as well. Zane is anti-social enough that he has no clue what it takes for society to work. But I would believe that he is capable of being honest enough to express how he feels - as he did - and mean that not to be an obligation for Jo to conform her behavior to his wishes, but for Jo to express herself honestly in return. I think that if she had come back with an "I'm sorry that hurt you, that is what I really want, so if we can't just be friends, let's at least be civil," he could have been ok with that.

I dunno. Maybe I'm talking out my hat. I think what I like least about the Jo/Zane thing is that I hate seeing competant women end up in relationships where they have to be the mommy for some immature jerk. We get enough of that in sit-coms, why do we have to have it on Sci-Fi?

BTW, hi littlebug!


machall - Sep 19, 2007 9:09:20 pm PDT #6697 of 10001
"Would you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?" - Doctor Who

I like Stark less and less. I didn't appreciate the way that he manipulated Allison into giving him what he wanted by using Kevin. While I'm not saying that he doesn't care about Kevin, it's clear to me that his motivation is to work on the artifact, and this is the only way he can do it. He preyed on Allison's fears so that she would let him do it. Henry trusted him and he betrayed Henry. I hope that this prompts Henry to go to Jack, and they will find the answer. I'm also annoyed with Allison for falling for this stupid shit.

Or it could prompt Henry to go to the DoD to narc on Stark and Allison. Allison gets busted back to liaison. Stark gets fired for real. Henry has a shot at the top spot at GD and gets another shot at bringing Kim back. It would be OIAL all over again.

I agree, Stark is a total user and he's preying on Allison's love for her son. He's Evil!Stark.


Anne W. - Sep 20, 2007 1:22:43 am PDT #6698 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Of course, at the moment I can see the same lines coming out of Colin's mouth, and being utterly controlling in a very sinister fashion, as he gets his evil on the way ita promises he can.

Is it wrong for me to hope for something to happen that lets us see Evil!Carter at some point?

I agree, Stark is a total user and he's preying on Allison's love for her son.

What I love about this is that I could buy either a) that Stark is doing this deliberately or b) that there's part of him that truly feels he is in fact doing the right thing.


fialka - Sep 20, 2007 1:54:54 am PDT #6699 of 10001
I am leaving. You are about to explode. ~Teal'c, 'Talion'

You're not exactly single.

Hey, I can still stand up for the side :) And anyway, I was for years, and most of the time having an awful lot of fun.

FreeDOM. Yeah.

::nostalgic sigh::


evil jimi - Sep 20, 2007 3:31:12 am PDT #6700 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Just remembered there's a Heroes thread, so sent it there instead.


d - Sep 20, 2007 4:01:29 am PDT #6701 of 10001
It's nice to see some brave pretenders trying to make it interesting.

I'm going to sit in the corner with WindSparrow on this one.

I feel so bad for Henry. It does seem as though he's attempting to get back to his real friendship with Jack. At least lately they don't show his smiling face hardening after Jack leaves like they were doing for a while.


Jessica - Sep 20, 2007 4:17:23 am PDT #6702 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

t posting through my fingers 'cause I haven't watched this week's Eureka yet

DH interviewed David Hewlett. Sadly, he did not take me up on my suggestion to ask him how is he so awesome, and I was too busy putting the baby to sleep in the other room to shout it into the phone myself.


WindSparrow - Sep 20, 2007 4:18:04 am PDT #6703 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Fluffs some pillows for d and me.

At least lately they don't show his smiling face hardening after Jack leaves like they were doing for a while.

I wish Henry had been able to take the Beverly angle to Jack - has Jack not proved sufficient to Henry's satisfaction that getting to the bottom of hinkiness (whether intentional or not) is the thing he does better than anyone in Eureka? Ok, yeah, I know, Henry can't call Jack in on this because Jack will stop him from getting Kim back. And part of me thinks that the genuine caring and friendship from Jack might help Henry let go of his unhealthy level of grief enough that this time Henry has a tiny seed of fear that Jack would stop him this time not physically but emotionally. Wouldn't exactly be the Yellow Crayon speech, but it could happen.