their philosophy smarts are pretty separate from their social smarts

Fargo's a loser, right? He's really smart compared to the national average, but a loser. On the brilliant but not loser list: Zoe, Zane, Alison, Stark, Kim, Beverly, Henry, the guy who runs Cafe Diem...

I'm not sure why I'm ending up defending what I think is bad writing, but so be it. Eureka hasn't posited much of the distinction you're making between book and social smarts.

I don't think we were led to believe that Jo is insecure because she's dating, but that's an opinion she'd hold even if she weren't.

Okay--to be clear--I don't think it's in Jo's character, right? I'm sticking clear to my initial "not that she should have one" and merely talking about it in the abstract.

On the brilliant but not loser list: Zane

Depends on who you're asking.

Depends on who you're asking.

I think he's incredibly unlikeable, but he's all about the social.

I wish they did do that stuff.

I wish they would get into the difference between academia and social intelligence. I thought it was a missed opportunity to do a show about religion and not track the overlap of faith and the "typical" science mind. Or at least the science of religion from a biological standpoint.... Joe, Ed and I are constantly battling to salvage stuff. It's nice to see that the instincts are right.

Yeah, I had my issues too. But the sword fell and I was told I was not allowed to change plotlines I was not involved with. And Lupo takes a hit.

I hope this is not seen as talking out of school. But it's just been killing me.

I'm sorry, Cferg--I know what it's like to see someone mishandle an element of a project and not be able to fix it.

Fargo's a loser, right? He's really smart compared to the national average, but a loser. On the brilliant but not loser list: Zoe, Zane, Alison, Stark, Kim, Beverly, Henry, the guy who runs Cafe Diem...

I'm not sure why I'm ending up defending what I think is bad writing, but so be it. Eureka hasn't posited much of the distinction you're making between book and social smarts.

Social smarts was imprecise. I don't mean coolness. IME the impact of their math/science brilliance on me would be like meeting a black belt or Grant Achatz. I don't rate in their field, so would I be too intimidated to date them? Probably not. (But of course there has to be something that is intimidating or insecurity-making outside of my professional interests-- let's call that social smarts. Wits, maybe.) So it's not just that Jo's sudden self-doubt came out of nowhere, it doesn't even seem grounded in natural reaction. That's what we're arguing, right?

You're right that Eureka hasn't really gone there, although it's the source of the absentminded professor trope, which they do use.

Bon, I'm pretty sure that you've intellectually intimidated non-lawyers, guys who look at you and think "Wait, what I do is not as cool as what she does--and am I as good at what I do as she is at what she does?"

It's happened to me (uh, NSM the intimidated by you, but having intimidated guys I didn't even know had suited up for the coding/fighting/whatever competition--but being intimidated by you is a decent place to start).

it's the source of the absentminded professor trope, which they do use.

But not *that* much, since the people I listed don't fall into it, and they deride Fargo for his "will push any button for food" behaviour.

Joe, Ed and I are constantly battling to salvage stuff. It's nice to see that the instincts are right.

You guys keep going with your instincts as best you can. From what you've posted you're usually right on with stuff that's akward, out-of-charcter, etc. IMO.

::support vibes to CFerg, Ed, and Joe to keep following their instincts::

Farscape update: I love Officer Aeryn Sun. I don't know if I'm in love with her or want to be her. Maybe a little of both?

The other characters continue to keep me surprised. When I try and out guess their behavior, I have been wrong as much as right.

Even Rygel surprises you sometimes. It's rare, but it happens.