I could squeeze you until you popped like warm champagne, and you'd beg me to hurt you just a little bit more.

Fuffy ,'Storyteller'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Sep 14, 2007 9:06:09 am PDT #6402 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Depends on who you're asking.

I think he's incredibly unlikeable, but he's all about the social.


CFerg - Sep 14, 2007 9:10:00 am PDT #6403 of 10001

I wish they did do that stuff.

I wish they would get into the difference between academia and social intelligence. I thought it was a missed opportunity to do a show about religion and not track the overlap of faith and the "typical" science mind. Or at least the science of religion from a biological standpoint.... Joe, Ed and I are constantly battling to salvage stuff. It's nice to see that the instincts are right.

Yeah, I had my issues too. But the sword fell and I was told I was not allowed to change plotlines I was not involved with. And Lupo takes a hit.

I hope this is not seen as talking out of school. But it's just been killing me.


Consuela - Sep 14, 2007 9:15:30 am PDT #6404 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm sorry, Cferg--I know what it's like to see someone mishandle an element of a project and not be able to fix it.


bon bon - Sep 14, 2007 9:18:38 am PDT #6405 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Fargo's a loser, right? He's really smart compared to the national average, but a loser. On the brilliant but not loser list: Zoe, Zane, Alison, Stark, Kim, Beverly, Henry, the guy who runs Cafe Diem...

I'm not sure why I'm ending up defending what I think is bad writing, but so be it. Eureka hasn't posited much of the distinction you're making between book and social smarts.

Social smarts was imprecise. I don't mean coolness. IME the impact of their math/science brilliance on me would be like meeting a black belt or Grant Achatz. I don't rate in their field, so would I be too intimidated to date them? Probably not. (But of course there has to be something that is intimidating or insecurity-making outside of my professional interests-- let's call that social smarts. Wits, maybe.) So it's not just that Jo's sudden self-doubt came out of nowhere, it doesn't even seem grounded in natural reaction. That's what we're arguing, right?

You're right that Eureka hasn't really gone there, although it's the source of the absentminded professor trope, which they do use.


§ ita § - Sep 14, 2007 9:32:49 am PDT #6406 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bon, I'm pretty sure that you've intellectually intimidated non-lawyers, guys who look at you and think "Wait, what I do is not as cool as what she does--and am I as good at what I do as she is at what she does?"

It's happened to me (uh, NSM the intimidated by you, but having intimidated guys I didn't even know had suited up for the coding/fighting/whatever competition--but being intimidated by you is a decent place to start).

it's the source of the absentminded professor trope, which they do use.

But not *that* much, since the people I listed don't fall into it, and they deride Fargo for his "will push any button for food" behaviour.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 14, 2007 9:36:21 am PDT #6407 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Joe, Ed and I are constantly battling to salvage stuff. It's nice to see that the instincts are right.

You guys keep going with your instincts as best you can. From what you've posted you're usually right on with stuff that's akward, out-of-charcter, etc. IMO.


Theresa - Sep 14, 2007 10:10:38 am PDT #6408 of 10001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

::support vibes to CFerg, Ed, and Joe to keep following their instincts::

Farscape update: I love Officer Aeryn Sun. I don't know if I'm in love with her or want to be her. Maybe a little of both?

The other characters continue to keep me surprised. When I try and out guess their behavior, I have been wrong as much as right.


Polter-Cow - Sep 14, 2007 10:15:12 am PDT #6409 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Even Rygel surprises you sometimes. It's rare, but it happens.


Theresa - Sep 14, 2007 10:22:30 am PDT #6410 of 10001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Even Rygel surprises you sometimes. It's rare, but it happens.

Yes!! It gets to the point where I wonder why he is not thrown out an airlock, and then he redeems himself. Sort of. Kind of. In a way.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 14, 2007 10:24:07 am PDT #6411 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It gets to the point where I wonder why he is not thrown out an airlock

Heh. Speculating on Farscape/Firefly x-over, it was pretty much decided Mal would have kicked the Dominar into a turbine in about 5 minutes of meeting him.