I always took Jo as someone who loves who she is, what she does, but still possesses a feminine side that she tries to suppress cuz she isn't comfortable with it/doesn't know how to handle that in public. And that's why she's had such trouble finding someone compatible (like it isn't hard enough for everyone). It always seemed to me that she needed someone that wasn't intimidated by her, respected her, but also appreciated her secret softer side. I never saw her as someone who felt inferior to the socially-awkward-yet-brilliant townsfolk around her. I don't feel like something new and amazing has been revealed about her that puts a spin on my perception of her. I feel cheated and used. And Jo and Erica Cerra should, too.
Wash: You want a slinky dress? I can buy you a slinky dress. Captain, can I have money for a slinky dress? Jayne: I'll chip in. Zoe: I can hurt you.
'Shindig'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Juliebird - Sep 11, 2007 5:30:22 pm PDT #6289 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Juliebird - Sep 11, 2007 5:32:30 pm PDT #6290 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I must admit to being overwhelmed by the amount and extent of shout-outs. They got to the point where they seemed to be the point of the ep, rather than a special treat.
Jon B. - Sep 11, 2007 5:36:08 pm PDT #6291 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
And, okay, maybe just my issue, but EVERYONE IN TOWN. It's a town full of nerds - WHERE THE EVERLOVING FUCK ARE THE JEWS?
Yeah, that bugged me too.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2007 5:39:12 pm PDT #6292 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
The only thing that got me past the everyone at church thing was both Carter and Stark basically saying they were there this time, but that's about it - and extrapolating the same for a bunch of the other people there. It BARELY got me past it, and I'm being generous, I think.
DXMachina - Sep 11, 2007 5:44:21 pm PDT #6293 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Can someone remind me who the big guy with the aquarium was?
He was the guy who last season created a hybrid plant that was making everyone in town fall asleep (?), until Carter used a flamethrower on his field.
Juliebird - Sep 11, 2007 5:47:39 pm PDT #6294 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
And Jo is smart. She understands the science she works with, and I'm sure she manipulated and modifies what she has to work with to her own liking. Which... what science isn't built on the back of others ideas?
I mean, I was surprised to be reminded/told in Phoenix Rising that she was still basically a novice in the sheriffing field and had yet to strike out on her own, but I took that more as lacking opportunity and experience than in insecurity and lack of self-confidence. I can understand some blue-collar shame and not realizing just how smart she is but-in-a-different-way. But she doesn't seem the type to lack the survivalist pride in what one CAN do. I took her more for the "screw you, I'm smart enough to know that I'm damned good at what I do, and I enjoy what I do, and if you can't respect that, then you don't deserve what I have to offer in a relationship."
Jo, where are you?
amych - Sep 11, 2007 5:48:58 pm PDT #6295 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I took her more for the "screw you, I'm smart enough to know that I'm damned good at what I do, and I enjoy what I do, and if you can't respect that, then you don't deserve what I have to offer in a relationship."
Holds this Jo tight. A lot.
tavella - Sep 11, 2007 7:36:08 pm PDT #6296 of 10001
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.
And, okay, maybe just my issue, but EVERYONE IN TOWN. It's a town full of nerds - WHERE THE EVERLOVING FUCK ARE THE JEWS?
...and the pagans, and the atheists...
sumi - Sep 11, 2007 8:01:44 pm PDT #6297 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
I checked BBCA On Demand and episode one of Torchwood is up and it's 52 minutes long - so UK cut?
sumi - Sep 11, 2007 8:15:30 pm PDT #6298 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Torchwood's premiere did well:
BBC America said the premiere of Torchwood on Saturday night delivered the biggest audience of any drama premiere in the 58-million-subscriber network’s history.
The grownup science-fiction series, a spinoff of Russell T. Davies’s recent edition of Doctor Who, attracted 297,000 viewers at 9 p.m. ET and 6 p.m. PT in the target demographic of persons ages 25 to 54, network officials said.
That’s slightly ahead of how action drama Robin Hood performed when it premiered last year, at about the same rating (0.42). Viewer numbers were higher for Torchwood than Robin Hood because BBCA is in more homes now