Saffron: You're a good man. Mal: You clearly haven't been talking to anyone else on this boat.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Tom Scola - Sep 11, 2007 3:50:53 am PDT #6192 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

the Sarah Jane Chronicles (not to be confused with the Sarah Connor Chronicles, in case I am)

It's The Sarah Jane Adventures.


DCJensen - Sep 11, 2007 4:08:48 am PDT #6193 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Torchwood does get better, interesting things happen, and even Owen gets partly redeemed.

Second half of season is better.


sumi - Sep 11, 2007 4:09:47 am PDT #6194 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I liked Torchwood better than season 2 of Doctor Who.

Although, I am really enjoying season 3 of Doctor Who.

The pilot of the Sarah Jane Adventures is lots of fun.


amych - Sep 11, 2007 4:30:08 am PDT #6195 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Yeah, TW took a few episodes to grow on me -- but when it did, I got to lurve it with a big big lurve like no other show I was watching at the time. (This is not to say, "I don't care if you hate it! You must watch more!", but if you don't hate it but it's not quite working for you, give it another shot. If nothing else, it's Capt. Jack goodness all the time.)


sumi - Sep 11, 2007 5:55:14 am PDT #6196 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, I watched Torchwood in blocks of 3 or 4 episodes so I got right into it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 11, 2007 6:04:46 am PDT #6197 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't want to spoil any details on the off chance that somebody might actually enjoy watching, but people who are on the fence about the show might want to wash their hair or something when the 4th episode airs.


Dana - Sep 11, 2007 6:42:57 am PDT #6198 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I enjoyed Torchwood much more on rewatch, since I knew sort of what to expect. And I would gift-wrap Ianto and take him home if I could.


Polter-Cow - Sep 11, 2007 6:44:19 am PDT #6199 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

people who are on the fence about the show might want to wash their hair or something when the 4th episode airs.

The end of that episode is what made me want to quit the show for good, though I did watch one more episode afterward.

Just a wee smidge of not-taking-ourselves-TOO-seriously would have gone down a treat. (I was surprised, as it's one of the things I love best about Dr Who is the ability to put forth a serious subject in a not-humourless manner.)

Totally, fialka. I was expecting something much more...different.


Liese S. - Sep 11, 2007 6:58:47 am PDT #6200 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I adore Ianto.

I'm just saying.


Fay - Sep 11, 2007 7:00:02 am PDT #6201 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

It's...I think what I love about Torchwood is that it IS fanfic. It is trashy, shaggadelic, silly, overblown, angsty fanfic. SET IN WALES!!!!!!

It cannot fare well if I compare it to something like Firefly, which, you know, I fucking love with the big burny hot love of a thousand exploding suns. But...it's Sci Fi. Set in the UK!!! Where people have normal accents and aren't the villain of the week!!!! (Or a Watcher. Or possibly both.)

I do understand people not loving the show, because it's flawed, and finding its feet, and in style/approach it's quite jarringly not like the shiny slick US scifi to which it aspires (UK telly tends to err too much towards the theatrical tradition, whereas US telly tends to be more influenced by cinema, and hence does realism better, much of the time).

But - you have to understand that this is the first new Sci Fi I can remember since Blake's 7 was cancelled, back in the 70s (or possibly the early 80s? I was very wee, anyway. And sad. Very sad that my big gay show was ending in a tragic pile of corpses and treachery and heartbreak...it was an early grooming for Tim and Joss and the wickedness of Fox execs, now I come to think of it).

Anyhoo, yes - Torchwood is silly like a silly thing, which puts it nicely in the tradition of UK genre shows - take a bow, Avengers, Blake's 7, Doctor Who et al. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea.