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Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Zenkitty - Aug 25, 2007 4:51:32 am PDT #5782 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Canonically the Tardis is a living being.

I did not know this. How interesting!

Typo Boy, I think you're right about how the Doctor doesn't always quite "get" humans. That's a good point. Though, really, it would be stranger if he did; he is an alien after all.


Dana - Aug 25, 2007 4:51:39 am PDT #5783 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And the woman who played the Matron also played Bridget Jones' friend Magda in the Bridget Jones Movies.

Wow, I didn't know that.


Liese S. - Aug 25, 2007 5:36:09 am PDT #5784 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think it's interesting that we're discussing this within the context of the show. I'm guessing this episode is one of the ones containing the genesis of the complaints about race in general on this show. I think that regardless of what the doctor or the tardis should have done, there certainly could have been something done on the part of the showrunners. This was the direction they chose to go.

Even having only seen up to this episode, I must say I'm feeling resentful at seeing Martha literally and figuratively on her knees to the Doctor.


Theodosia - Aug 25, 2007 5:39:29 am PDT #5785 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Does it matter that these two episodes were adapted from a Dr Who tie-in novel with a different companion? So, the producers had to go with the 1913 school background and stay true to the period in order to get anything like a true adaptation.


Jon B. - Aug 25, 2007 5:58:19 am PDT #5786 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Does it matter that these two episodes were adapted from a Dr Who tie-in novel with a different companion?

I don't think it matters. They pretty radically changed "Blink" from the short story upon which it was based.


DCJensen - Aug 25, 2007 6:48:14 am PDT #5787 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Though, really, it would be stranger if he did; he is an alien after all.

Well, he's canonically half human, too. Which might explain his interest in them, but not quite getting the human race.

Of course the same could be true for a large number of us...


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2007 6:49:14 am PDT #5788 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm guessing this episode is one of the ones containing the genesis of the complaints about race in general on this show.

Can you go into more detail? What were the race complaints?

On a meta level, I have no problem with it. From inside the story I don't remember if it's a proper choice made by the characters or not.


DebetEsse - Aug 25, 2007 6:50:47 am PDT #5789 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I've not gotten the impression that they're retaining that bit of canon, DCJ.

I do agree with your last point, though. I know I often roll my eyes at the human race.


DCJensen - Aug 25, 2007 7:05:29 am PDT #5790 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The core of Blink was the main character, peripheral storyline, and the angels.

The core of this episode was the doctor being secreted away as a human at a early 20th century boys school training them for war, which is the last place the Doctor would be expected to be. Him all against guns.

I suppose you could place him on Raxicoricofallipatorius...


Dana - Aug 25, 2007 9:10:09 am PDT #5791 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Can you go into more detail? What were the race complaints?

It's kind of hard to summarize without spoilers for the whole season.