Kaylee: So, uh, how come you don't care where you're going? Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.

'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Typo Boy - Aug 24, 2007 8:48:22 pm PDT #5779 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Sometimes? sure. But mostly the Tardis goes exactly where the Doctor points her. The end of the world. Multi-times New New York. Canonically the Tardis is a living being. Sometimes the Doctor will give the Tardis her head (or loose parameters). Sometimes the Tardis won't follow orders. But mostly the Tardis goes where the Doctor tells her to go. (I'm assuming the Tardis is female, just cause the Doctor favors female companions. But of course there is no reason the Tardis necessarily has a gender.)


sumi - Aug 24, 2007 9:00:31 pm PDT #5780 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

But didn't the Doctor say that the TARDIS creates the history and if Martha was close enough would include her in the periphery? (Or something of the sort.)


Fay - Aug 24, 2007 9:05:34 pm PDT #5781 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Good lord, ita - the Tina Turner hair was...well, I wouldn't have recognised you.

The 80s. I shudder to even contemplate what my hair looked like in 1985. Not good. And there were probably amusing glasses too.

Ick.

I didn't know that Jane was writing for Eureka and BSG! Nice one!

(I have nothing to add to the Who discussion other than envy. Still no sign of Season 3 on the DVD stalls here in Bangkok. Can't be too much longer, though, surely...)


Zenkitty - Aug 25, 2007 4:51:32 am PDT #5782 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Canonically the Tardis is a living being.

I did not know this. How interesting!

Typo Boy, I think you're right about how the Doctor doesn't always quite "get" humans. That's a good point. Though, really, it would be stranger if he did; he is an alien after all.


Dana - Aug 25, 2007 4:51:39 am PDT #5783 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And the woman who played the Matron also played Bridget Jones' friend Magda in the Bridget Jones Movies.

Wow, I didn't know that.


Liese S. - Aug 25, 2007 5:36:09 am PDT #5784 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think it's interesting that we're discussing this within the context of the show. I'm guessing this episode is one of the ones containing the genesis of the complaints about race in general on this show. I think that regardless of what the doctor or the tardis should have done, there certainly could have been something done on the part of the showrunners. This was the direction they chose to go.

Even having only seen up to this episode, I must say I'm feeling resentful at seeing Martha literally and figuratively on her knees to the Doctor.


Theodosia - Aug 25, 2007 5:39:29 am PDT #5785 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Does it matter that these two episodes were adapted from a Dr Who tie-in novel with a different companion? So, the producers had to go with the 1913 school background and stay true to the period in order to get anything like a true adaptation.


Jon B. - Aug 25, 2007 5:58:19 am PDT #5786 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Does it matter that these two episodes were adapted from a Dr Who tie-in novel with a different companion?

I don't think it matters. They pretty radically changed "Blink" from the short story upon which it was based.


DCJensen - Aug 25, 2007 6:48:14 am PDT #5787 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Though, really, it would be stranger if he did; he is an alien after all.

Well, he's canonically half human, too. Which might explain his interest in them, but not quite getting the human race.

Of course the same could be true for a large number of us...


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2007 6:49:14 am PDT #5788 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm guessing this episode is one of the ones containing the genesis of the complaints about race in general on this show.

Can you go into more detail? What were the race complaints?

On a meta level, I have no problem with it. From inside the story I don't remember if it's a proper choice made by the characters or not.