River: You gave up everything you had. Simon: [Chinese] Everything I have is right here.

'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2007 6:55:19 am PDT #5356 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did Eureka debut over 2? For some reason I seem to recall that.

I bet Flash Gordon derived a fair part of its numbers for people who're thinking of the original. Remains to be seen if it can pull a BSG and recreate itself compellingly.

Which is also a Bionic Woman question, but that has a less distinctive original.

Still thinking about the nekkid. A man's virility is to be flaunted, a woman's fecundity to be hidden once she has found herself a virile protector.

Or something, she says waving her hands airily.


sumi - Aug 15, 2007 7:04:18 am PDT #5357 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that you watched the BSG miniseries and you knew that they'd done it right.

Yes, Eureka and BSG both did better in their premiere's than that.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 15, 2007 7:08:30 am PDT #5358 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Honestly BSG was something I AVOIDED because of the original. I still haven't gotten around to catching up with it, but I've got the DVDs because it's come recommended from enough people who's taste I trust.


Jon B. - Aug 15, 2007 7:10:02 am PDT #5359 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I haven't heard anything good about Flash Gordon, but I haven't watched it myself.

There's a good reason you haven't heard anything good: It's not good. Except for the scantily clad wimmen.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 15, 2007 7:17:14 am PDT #5360 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

There's a good reason you haven't heard anything good: It's not good. Except for the scantily clad wimmen.

I get the impression that we're not talking bad the way that the movie was awsomely bad, but just mediocre bad. Am I correct in that assumption?


Tom Scola - Aug 15, 2007 7:24:47 am PDT #5361 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I get the impression that we're not talking bad the way that the movie was awsomely bad, but just mediocre bad. Am I correct in that assumption?

Yes. Basically, the producers understood the mandate to "modernize" FG to mean that you have to purge it of everything that was fun and cool about the comic strip and the movie.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 15, 2007 7:30:45 am PDT #5362 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I still remember listening to an old Flash Gordon radio show (on LP - I'm not THAT old) which had the immortal line "Ahhhh! Smell that oxygen!" Cracks me up every single time I think of it.


Zenkitty - Aug 15, 2007 7:35:41 am PDT #5363 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Still thinking about the nekkid. A man's virility is to be flaunted, a woman's fecundity to be hidden once she has found herself a virile protector.

A man's virility is to be flaunted, but depending on context, it's also funny, because nakedness means vulnerability, and vulnerability is funny, because humans are mean. A woman's nakedness is vulnerable, but it isn't usually funny unless it's an over-the-top, absurd, slapstick situation. Hm.

I am glad I didn't watch FG. Interested to see how its numbers do.


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2007 7:42:18 am PDT #5364 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think male nudity is as often shown as vulnerable. Embarassing and a gaffe, but I can't imagine Colin's scene playing anywhere near as well if written for a woman, because her nudity would be desirable to too many of the people around her.

Again with the reaching, but I handwave it to be why you more often see modesty prohibitions for women than men.

I don't want to imply that female nudity isn't powerful, just that often it isn't power the woman herself can use, unless she's one of those women.

t /generalisation (for now)


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2007 7:59:48 am PDT #5365 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ha! Male nudity that popped up on my blog list (worksafe).