Bar maid! Bring me stronger ale! And some plump, succulent babies to eat!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tiggy - Apr 14, 2007 8:14:42 pm PDT #480 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

JDM is, at most, 15 years older than JA. Possibly less.

yeah, i don't think there's even that much, is there? isn't Jensen, like, 28 or 29? i know JDM is 40(very soon to be 41). that's why he sports the beard.


Lee - Apr 14, 2007 8:16:16 pm PDT #481 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think it's 12. JDM is about 6 months younger than I am (almost 41, as Tiggy pointed out) and JA is 29.


tiggy - Apr 14, 2007 8:18:25 pm PDT #482 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm not picky, i'd take either one of them.


Lee - Apr 14, 2007 8:23:15 pm PDT #483 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Or both?


Beverly - Apr 14, 2007 8:26:12 pm PDT #484 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Rumor has it that JDM and JA hang out a bit off set.

And there's a school of thought that the drunk scene felt off because Sam may not have actually been as drunk as he was trying to appear, just loose enough to ask Dean to make that promise.

Playthings for me = jeans shot walking down the hall away from camera and "Dude! You're not gonna poke her with a stick!"


P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2007 8:52:35 pm PDT #485 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The one thing that's glaringly obvious, to me, anyway, is the exponential leap JP's acting took between IMToD and Houses of the Holy and Born Under a Bad Sign. It's almost like he made a crossroads deal, the improvement was so sudden and so marked.

See, and I notice it most between Devil's Trap and IMToD.

After that, it's just a week-by-week thing, until he gets to BUaBS, where he goes all kick-ass with the evil.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2007 10:18:02 pm PDT #486 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm finally caught up with all the Boxed Set shows I watch. Even Painkiller Jane, which was wooden and stupid. And a completely different setup from their previous 2hr pilot/TV movie.

I've only read the character in comics as a guest star--what is her deal there?

Finished LoM. Damn. I really liked that ending. I think that suicide is a valid option, that life shouldn't be mandatory. I hope, for Sam's sake, that the moment of his death stretches on forever, so he gets a good long time in there. Poor dear.

As for Ashes & Ashes, having read Fiona's (almost called you Fi, there), I think it's funny that Gene Hunt is the goto guy for nowaday coppers to play with in their heads.

There was more. About stuff. Have forgotten.


Beverly - Apr 15, 2007 5:29:15 am PDT #487 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

To me, he's still playing Puppy!Sam in IMToD. He's improving in ELaC and CSPWDT, and there is a perceptible improvement ep by ep, but even in Playthings there's still a lot of WB teenage actor about him. In Houses of the Holy, he just hits it, and in BUaBS it's like all the pieces finally fall into place and he hits it out of the park. He seems more adult after that. Puppy!Sam is being left behind. Even in Heart, the emo stuff was different. It wasn't childish, his technique didn't seem to be calling on childhood trauma, but more reaching inside for elemental stuff.

Moonshine and my imagination, probably. But there it is.


Juliebird - Apr 15, 2007 6:20:32 am PDT #488 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Re: Darkly "lit" shows.

I think dark "lighting" can work, but certainly not all the time, and can be done badly (the pilot for Firefly springs to mind with just not enough contrast between the shadows and the light, The West Wing, sometimes The X-Files, sometimes TDF). But I really enjoy the tone set when there are extreme shadows and spots of light from on-set sources (Moose and Squirrel with their flashlights, emergency lighting for Out of Gas and Bushwhacked, most of the candle-lit scenes for The Dresden Files and the filtered daylit scenes). It's a personal beef of mine to see characters stumbling through the woods at night with fake spotlights lighting everything. And there they are, pretending they can't see. I think Pitch Black is my favorite movie for excellent use of darkness and the characters lighting themselves (of course, that was also the entire point of the movie).

But the "everything is murky"-lighting is not cool, unless the point is to be vague and mysterious (or to hide bad CGI). I've had crap TVs that make things so much harder to see. Thank goodness I need driving glasses and not the other way around.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 15, 2007 7:30:18 am PDT #489 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Did they announce a date on the Eureka promo?