I see your uhhhhhhhhhhh and raise you a gnyeh.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Typo Boy - Jun 16, 2007 11:44:18 am PDT #2679 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Thanks.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2007 1:06:15 pm PDT #2680 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I say this last Who was creepy, I don't mean that in any sense like the last one. Listening to the conversation between the Doctor and Jack --any of their conversations-- made me feel like I shouldn't be there. There was something nakedly intimate about it, and that's even before you get to slashing them.

Fiona, was there spoilage for who Jacobi/Simm played?

Also, what did Martha mean when she recognized the voice? Was he the guy whose name I'm forgetting--the one who told her mother the Doctor was a bad man?

Last week's episode was such a perfect standalone, and then there's this one which is tied in to so many other stories. Cool. Different way, but cool.


Dana - Jun 16, 2007 2:22:33 pm PDT #2681 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Who, 3.11:

Holy shit. I knew Simm was playing the Master, but the dawning realization that Jacobi was a Time Lord, and that he'd regenerate into Simm -- that was awesome.

Man, and Jack. I hate that the Doctor just walked away from him, that he knew what had happened to Jack, and he just left him, but yet again, it's a horrible thing that's perfectly in character. And what great scenes between the two of them. I am VERY EXCITED.


Dana - Jun 16, 2007 2:24:03 pm PDT #2682 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, and I loved hearing the Torchwood theme music worked into the score as the Doctor stood over Jack that first time.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2007 2:40:33 pm PDT #2683 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Weirdly enough, when I first saw Jacobi in his getup, and even more with the addition of Chan To, I thought--cool! Time Lord! For a couple seconds, and then moved on. I got to the realisation of the full truth at just about the speed the plot intended.


Kate P. - Jun 16, 2007 5:30:52 pm PDT #2684 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Doctor Who 3x11: Eeeeeee! That was wicked cool, especially the second half of the episode. It felt a bit slow and off-kilter in the first half, and Jack and the Doctor were so stiff and strange with each other -- but of course, then everything fell into place after their little chat. I loved the reveal that Jack missed his mark by a century and change and had to live through all of it to get back to where he was supposed to be.

So how the hell are the Doctor, Martha, and Jack going to get back to the 21st century? And will the answer involve Utopia in some way? Surely we have to find out what that is in the next episode -- something tells me it's not quite all it's cracked up to be.

Mostly, though, I'm just all *wavy hands* over the Master. JOHN EFFING SIMM! So cool! Yay! He should be evil on my TV all the time.


Anne W. - Jun 16, 2007 5:53:22 pm PDT #2685 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Kate, I have a feeling that Jack's wristband is going to get sonic screwdrivered next episode. And I also have a feeling that the Doctor is going to have to endure a fair amount of needling from Jack about how his crappy little time hopper saved their asses.


Kate P. - Jun 16, 2007 5:58:26 pm PDT #2686 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Hah, Anne, I completely forgot all about Jack's space-hopper thingy, but of course you're right.


DCJensen - Jun 16, 2007 7:39:18 pm PDT #2687 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Doctor Who 3x11:

Also, what did Martha mean

ita, I think she has heard Harold Saxon speak. In the previews, he's taken on the persona of Harold Saxon in the 21st century. I wonder if he's running against Harriet Jones?


DCJensen - Jun 16, 2007 8:56:05 pm PDT #2688 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Doctor Who 3x11:

Chantho was cute as a bug. Chan so to speak tho.