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Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Jon B. - Apr 13, 2007 5:18:24 am PDT #237 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Life on Mars: Barring a painful physical terminal illness, I don't believe suicide is ever a positive choice. Clearly, in this case, it was meant to be one. Hence, the fucked-up-ed-ness.


JenP - Apr 13, 2007 6:36:49 am PDT #238 of 10001

Life on Mars finale:

I have to go read the articles that Fiona linked upthread, because I fanwanked my way around it being an actual suicide before I read Jon's take. As in, I'm not sure he ever woke up for real. He was up and about awfully quick, it seemed, and, I don't know, the whole current time thing had a weird feel to me. The weird look Morgan gave him as he walked away. I sort of thought he never woke up but "dreamed" or whatever his way into the present, then just did the same to get back .

Now, I'm not putting that forth as what people were supposed to take from it. Just how I fanwanked to make myself happy with the ending - he knew when he jumped off the building that he was just going from one unreality to another within his comafied brain. Not actually committing suicide .

In fact, maybe I won't go read the articles upthread. I do agree with Jon's take if I shared the same interpretation.


Jon B. - Apr 13, 2007 8:38:27 am PDT #239 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That fanwank is certainly one way to deal with with it, Jen!


Dana - Apr 13, 2007 8:40:23 am PDT #240 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

AUGH. Must catch up with Life on Mars. I just finished watching 2.05, which I thought was an interesting episode that didn't quite gel. Lots of good moments, but the central idea of the flashbacks/visions never really worked.


Jon B. - Apr 13, 2007 8:43:43 am PDT #241 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Which one is 2.05, Dana?


Dana - Apr 13, 2007 8:46:05 am PDT #242 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The one with the guy whose wife and child are kidnapped, and there's a problem with Sam's medication.


Fiona - Apr 13, 2007 9:03:18 am PDT #243 of 10001

I thought that was the best episode of the series! The Camberwick Green intro did it for me. I haven't laughed that much in ages. Even the Nonce waves. But I don't know if Camberwick Green ever made it to the States.

Last episode fanwank: Jen, I totally agree that he knew that jumping would take him back, and that's why he did it. In fact, I think the writer agrees, so.


Dana - Apr 13, 2007 9:24:17 am PDT #244 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

See, Fiona, I'd already seen the intro bit, since it was used in a promo, or leaked, or something. And I laughed and laughed, though I'm sure I didn't get the entire reference. But what's not to love about Claymation!Gene banging a trash can lid into someone's head repeatedly?

It was just the rest of it, the main plot, that didn't *quite* work for me. I still thought it was a very enjoyable episode. I love seeing the slight changes in the way the cops do things, especially Gene and Chris.

Maybe part of the problem is that I thought from the beginning that the husband was the killer. I was kind of impressed that they'd circumvented it at the end, but then it came right back around to his being the killer.


Jon B. - Apr 13, 2007 9:49:04 am PDT #245 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I loved the use of the Hawkwind tune at the beginning of that episode, but that's the music geek in me talking.


Dana - Apr 13, 2007 10:55:13 am PDT #246 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

For those not aware, the Stargates start back up tonight on Sci-Fi. Yay!