Hee, JenP! I saw your posts about your take on the finale, and, you know, I could totally buy that. Especially with that look that Dr. Morgan gives Sam as he's walking out of his room -- that's a very knowing look!
Mal: You tell me right now, little Kaylee, you really think you can do this? Kaylee: Sure. Yeah. I think so. 'Sides, if I mess up, not like you'll be able to yell at me.
'Bushwhacked'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Kate P. - Jun 05, 2007 5:33:09 pm PDT #2311 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
JenP - Jun 05, 2007 5:39:47 pm PDT #2312 of 10001
Exactly!
Jon B. - Jun 05, 2007 5:45:29 pm PDT #2313 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
LoM:
Kate write about what I wrote, "But would the ending have been satisfying, from a narrative perspective, if it showed Sam waking up in 2006, recovering from his injuries, getting some therapy, having a few brief interactions with characters we've never seen before, and deciding to stay there -- all in the span of about 10 minutes?"
That's a bit of a straw man argument, Kate. Those are hardly the only two options. If they were going to go that route the writers could have taken a lot more time with it. Also, I want to reiterate that I did think the ending was satifying from a narrative PoV. But it was also fucked up.
Beverly - Jun 05, 2007 5:49:12 pm PDT #2314 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Ailleann, thanks for the link! That was indeed the essay I was thinking of--not only that, it was the one that linked the Winchesters and the YED in a circular pattern of fatal flaw. I'd been trying to find that one--and had forgotten they are the same essay.
Ailleann - Jun 05, 2007 6:03:46 pm PDT #2315 of 10001
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That essay is completely brilliant.
Also, did everyone see that Fire in the Hole got an update? (We were flailing about Big_Pink in here, right? Or was that FF?)
P.M. Marc - Jun 05, 2007 6:15:58 pm PDT #2316 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think that was in FF.
Hey, guess who just watched all the Jo bits in SPN?
That'd be me! Okay, I skipped ELAC, on account of having just watched it and all. But I watched all the rest!
In conclusion, Jo and Dean have better chemistry than assumed on first airing, and Alona Tal really, really looks like a young waifish blonde version of Jilli.
Kate P. - Jun 05, 2007 6:33:51 pm PDT #2317 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
That's a bit of a straw man argument, Kate. Those are hardly the only two options.
Of course -- and I also said that I could have bought the staying-in-2006 decision if we'd had more time with Sam there. What I meant -- and articulated poorly -- was that, by the point in the episode when Sam wakes up (around the 48 minute mark), there was no time left to convince me that he should stay in 2006, and I only wanted to see him return to 1973. They certainly could have brought Sam back earlier and spent more time on his re-integration into his old life, but I don't think that's the kind of story they were interested in telling, nor the one they had been telling up until that point. To me, Sam's story turned out to be much less about *how* he got to 1973, and more about how he lived there and was changed by his time there.
Consuela - Jun 05, 2007 6:52:29 pm PDT #2318 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I tried to read that Dodger-Winslow essay, and like much of her fic, MEGO and I started tilting sideways.
Also, she's wrong about John. His boys come first. But I have the advantage of hindsight, as that essay was written a year ago.
JenP - Jun 05, 2007 7:07:06 pm PDT #2319 of 10001
What does MEGO mean?
Morgana - Jun 05, 2007 7:15:50 pm PDT #2320 of 10001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Would it be petty of me to say that I was constantly distracted while reading the Dodger-Winslow essay by the many typos? Yes, I suppose it would be. (And I'm certainly not claiming that my posts have never contained a mistake.) Interesting ideas, much food for thought. I just wish it had been run through spell check before being posted.