I generally disagree with you and Jon and ita on the whole thing,
Really? Because I disagree with Jon and Nora. I think I missed your stance.
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§ ita § - Jun 01, 2007 9:39:46 am PDT #2078 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Nora Deirdre - Jun 01, 2007 9:40:41 am PDT #2079 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
I think I missed Dana's stance too.
Dana - Jun 01, 2007 9:47:26 am PDT #2080 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Maybe I disagree with everyone.
Though I thought the finale fell just short of being perfect, I loved the ambiguity, and I have a very hard time looking at it as simply "Sam woke up, was too messed up to go on, and killed himself." The creators claim that they never intended it to be ambiguous about whether he was actually mad, in a coma, or back in time, but I think the show itself never really answered that question, and I much prefer it that way.
I am dubious about the spinoff, but we'll see.
§ ita § - Jun 01, 2007 9:49:42 am PDT #2081 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I see. You do disagree with us all.
Hmm.
You see the ending as ambiguous--the three choices not ruled out being the ones you noted? Coma, crazy, actual time traveller?
Jon B. - Jun 01, 2007 9:50:44 am PDT #2082 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I'm not sure how that works in my brain, but it does.
However it works, it's also working in mine. That is to say, I loved it as well, despite my issues with the ending.
Nora Deirdre - Jun 01, 2007 9:52:36 am PDT #2083 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
I love that it keeps me thinking about it. I love(d) this show, and my hardcore gut reaction to the ending sort of speaks to my emotional investment.
I love that everyone has a different take.
I love that I can see other ppl's pov, because nothing fits perfectly. No matter how I interpret it, something's not quite right, logically speaking.
I feel like I've been processing this all day. I can't get enough of it, and I'm so sad that it's gone.
Crazy!
Fiona - Jun 01, 2007 9:56:53 am PDT #2084 of 10001
It's certainly a show that demands a very emotional response, that's for sure. I love reading other people's takes.
I'm also dubious about the spin-off (especially after the dreaded phrase, "think "Moonlighting"), but we'll see.
Dana - Jun 01, 2007 9:57:22 am PDT #2085 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
You do disagree with us all.
Fandom has taught me many useful things.
From the beginning, I realized that I believed that Sam was both in a coma and actually back in 1973. And possibly a little crazy. Nothing in the second series changed my mind on that.
tiggy - Jun 01, 2007 10:00:03 am PDT #2086 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
ahhhh!! y'all are making me want to go home and streamline the episodes i have left to watch!
Kate P. - Jun 01, 2007 10:22:18 am PDT #2087 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
Me too, tiggy! It's probably gonna be a week before I can finish up season 2 and come back and catch up. woe!