David Greenwalt is going to be running Moonlight
I guess his vampire detective show cred is as good as anyone's. Just don't start the female lead out kickass and snarky and turn her into Snuggles the Fabric Softener Bear this time, Dave.
As Willow goes, so goes my nation.
Oz ,'Selfless'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 01, 2007 6:04:11 am PDT #2056 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Beverly - Jun 01, 2007 6:06:51 am PDT #2057 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Snuggles the Fabric Softener Bear this time,
"I wanna hunt that little bitch down, I swear."
Nora Deirdre - Jun 01, 2007 6:15:28 am PDT #2058 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
Jon B. - Jun 01, 2007 6:49:56 am PDT #2059 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Nora -- In the current thread, it starts here: Fiona "Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that." Apr 13, 2007 3:25:46 am PDT but there was definitely some stuff in the previous thread as well.
Jon B. - Jun 01, 2007 6:50:20 am PDT #2060 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I guess you found it, then?
Nora Deirdre - Jun 01, 2007 7:02:04 am PDT #2061 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
I did! Thanks Jon. During the end of the finale and for some time after, I couldn't stop crying. It was heartbreaking in a way that I couldn't really vocalize. I don't know if that makes me a sap or what, but I was quite upset about it. Some of that might be due to the fact that the entire finale was a total mindfuck whiplash, and just getting to the end was exhausting.
I did not feel it was a happy ending (which you may have gathered) and I am weirded out by the fact that the producers/directors seem to think so. I don't have a problem with the suicide itself, per se, but I just thought it was gut wrenching that, if the 2006 reality was indeed the "real" one, he was so alone. So alone that he created this fantasy. So alone that he had to go back to it.
I am willing to entertain the wank that Sam actually was an amnesiac police officer in 1973 who went completely nuts and thought he was from the future, but... uh... that's pretty fucked up too. Actually, now that I think about it, he did have knowledge of the future (technology, day to day stuff, historical perspective) so maybe NSM.
In the end, though, I feel like a lot of it comes down to the conversation that Sam and Nelson had at the bar (as the show made clear, by referencing it several times). The whole, what is real? who's to say that one reality is more valid than another? I don't know if the show quite pulled that off though. It was... too linear for me to let go and be OK with that POV. If it had more sci-fi-itude, or a slightly different tv universe, I could have gone with it. But I don't totally buy it.
I think I have more but I'm processing.
Jon B. - Jun 01, 2007 7:05:54 am PDT #2062 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Your second paragraph, first sentence? My Sistah!
Nora Deirdre - Jun 01, 2007 7:07:39 am PDT #2063 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
also, the fact that the Gene Hunt gang is the dream/alternate reality, it seems weird that there's going to be a spin off of it.
Is that just me? It just doesn't feel right.
Nora Deirdre - Jun 01, 2007 7:08:15 am PDT #2064 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
I hasten to add: not that I'm not looking forward to More Gene Hunt !
§ ita § - Jun 01, 2007 7:12:50 am PDT #2065 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
LoM: I didn't think that 2006 was so empty that he'd had to create the fantasy--just that he did, and once he got back realised he'd created a fantasy that preoccupied him so much that things he'd probably been just find with were hollow and unsatisfying now.