Jayne: 'Cause I don't know these folks. Don't much care to. Mal: They're whores. Jayne: I'm in.

'Heart Of Gold'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jon B. - May 29, 2007 8:45:42 am PDT #1995 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

So cannot speak to the spoileriness of the piece.

Spoilery enough that I wouldn't read it unless you've seen the last episode of S2.

and sometimes wonder why they couldn't tell these stories in present day.

A major theme of the show, I think, is how police techniques have changed in the last 24 years.


tiggy - May 29, 2007 8:49:59 am PDT #1996 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I don't think there are plans for a S3, so I wouldn't wait. Consume, consume!

OMG! really?! i so can't handle the way the british do television. there's never enough (time)!

'spose i'll finish up season two asap then.

isn't there another Brit show with John Simm that's fairly recent? anyone seen it? worth *ahem*-ing?


Dana - May 29, 2007 8:54:17 am PDT #1997 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

i so can't handle the way the british do television. there's never enough (time)!

It is hard to get used to, especially when it's fabulous and you just want more, but with LoM, I think it would have been hard to sustain the concept indefinitely. Which brings us back to skepticism about the American version. Last I'd heard, they'd only cast the "Annie" character. So much is going to depend on the Sam and Gene casting.


Fiona - May 29, 2007 8:59:24 am PDT #1998 of 10001

isn't there another Brit show with John Simm that's fairly recent? anyone seen it? worth *ahem*-ing?

tiggy, he'll be appearing in the last couple of episodes of this season's Doctor Who. They'll be broadcast the end of June.

He was also in "State of Play" (as was Philip Glenister), which I never saw so I don't know what it's like, but as Bill Nighy, Kelly Macdonald and James McAvoy are also in it, and it's by Paul "Shameless" Abbott, it must be worth a look.


§ ita § - May 29, 2007 8:59:51 am PDT #1999 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If I had the patience, I'd wait till any given UK series (which is what they call a season) is done and mainline it in a weekend. Never works out that way.

But I really appreciate what a short season can do for a storyline. And also when they just up and stop. Knowing there's an end (as opposed to series that want to go on for ever and ever) also makes a positive difference.


§ ita § - May 29, 2007 9:01:20 am PDT #2000 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He was also in "State of Play" (as was Philip Glenister), which I never saw so I don't know what it's like, but as Bill Nighy, Kelly Macdonald and James McAvoy are also in it, it must be worth a look.

I did love that. Though I keep confusing it with "The State Within" with Jason Isaacs. Luckily I loved that too.


Polter-Cow - May 29, 2007 9:01:47 am PDT #2001 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

A major theme of the show

I agree, Jon. It's pretty interesting to see, and that's one of the things that sort of confuzzled me at first. Like they really were like that back then? They didn't even bother to tape record interviews? That's so weird!

One of the things I like about the show is that it's a fish-out-of-water show in so many ways. Present-day Sam in the 1970s. Present-day detectiving in old-school procedures. Idealistic values in the midst of corruption.


tiggy - May 29, 2007 9:22:05 am PDT #2002 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

It is hard to get used to, especially when it's fabulous and you just want more, but with LoM, I think it would have been hard to sustain the concept indefinitely.

yeah, you're probably right. i'd much prefer a short series that is done well than a drawn out one that you're ready for it to end.

Fiona, i knew about Simm being in Who, which i'm SO excited about. State of Play! that's the other one. i'll have to go look for some current *ahems*. i'll need something to fill the Simm void LoM will leave me with.

If I had the patience, I'd wait till any given UK series (which is what they call a season) is done and mainline it in a weekend. Never works out that way.

agreed. i actually tend to watch the DW eps right away and then once i have three eps, i burn them to a disc and watch with my sister, but i haven't started her on this new season yet and now we're almost done. by the time we have time to catch up, the season will probably be over. so she won't have to wait for these two-parters to finish up.


Dana - May 29, 2007 10:33:36 am PDT #2003 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Finished Dr. Who 3.08:

Dude, I thought the possessed schoolboy was *excellent*. Creepy as hell. Also AAAAAAAHHHH SCARECROWS and AAAAAAHHHHHH PREVIEW.


esse - May 29, 2007 11:39:53 am PDT #2004 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Who: holy mother, this makes up for the stupid "42" episode in spaaaaaaaaades. Not!Schoolboy is creepy as hell. Like, creepy like the Cillian Murphy in Batman Returns creepy. Very nicely done on his part, for the role. Very nicely done.

Oh, David! It's so lovely to see him act in such an entirely different role than the spastic Doctor I heart. Tennant has such a natural grace for expanding things that could just be relatively minor. As the scatterbrained school teacher, he is just wonderful. I love the little romance between him and the matron--it's like a story within a story within a story, and a very lovely grace note in an otherwise fantastic episode.

Poor Martha! Bless her. I feel for her the most, I think. And the moment, when she's looking at the Doctor on the screen in the TARDIS, and he's on number 23; and she says, of course you had to go and fall in love with someone, and that someone wasn't me. Bless! It sucks to be the girlfriend after The Girlfriend.

The fellow who was in Love Actually--which, by the by, thanks, I was trying to place that through the whole thing--did a nice wide-eyed astonishment. The bits about the oncoming war were rather heavy-handed, but whatever. It's not Who without some anvils. This was really a genius episode. And probably spawns a thousand AUs. Can't wait for next week!