Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship. Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

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Kate P. - May 17, 2007 5:15:20 pm PDT #1534 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I can't decide whether this episode felt emotionally satisfying or a little too neat, but I'm definitely glad to have the YED arc finished. He was a great villain, but his time was up. So: next year's arcs will be Hunting Down New Demons and Saving Dean From Hell? Does the death of all those hunters at the Roadhouse mean they're dropping the Evil Sammy/Hunters Become the Hunted story that we all expected? Or, hmm, the YED did plant the suspicion in Dean's mind that Sam might have come back wrong, so maybe that'll be part of next season's story after all. Oh, right, and the Feds on their trail, too.

Hahahahahaha, to the repeat of "Carry On My Wayward Son." It is pretty much the perfect song for this show.

It was chilling to see Sam's body laid out like that. Boy sure looked pretty damn dead.

Giant Devil's Trap = totally cool. That's a great idea.

John! Aw, that was great to see him again. Kind of wish his name hadn't been in the credits, though -- it would have been cool to be surprised by his appearance. So did he go to Secular Heaven just like [memfault; Tricia Helfer's character] did? And poor Sam, only getting the Manly Nod from his dad instead of the Reassuring Shoulder Squeeze or whatever that Dean got. Think we've seen the last of John?

Dean's monologue (SPN Origins callback baby!)

Yes! That was great, nicely done.


SailAweigh - May 17, 2007 5:15:21 pm PDT #1535 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I suspect some folks objected to the Satan ex Johnus (well, he came out of Hell so he couldn't exactly be a Deus ex, could he?) that helped delay the YED until Dean could shoot him. Me, I could care less.


quester - May 17, 2007 5:15:38 pm PDT #1536 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Seriously they hated it? Why?

because they are stupid? or have no souls?


Ailleann - May 17, 2007 5:17:08 pm PDT #1537 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

People think it was boring, predictable, that Dean had no character growth. . .

I went and read the first page. (I love teh crazy.) I... want to say forceful things, but I'd be preaching to the choir here.

And yet they complain that things are too laid out for next season... um... if you follow those tracks back, they lead to Dean's character development. @@


Anne W. - May 17, 2007 5:18:36 pm PDT #1538 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

And poor Sam, only getting the Manly Nod from his dad instead of the Reassuring Shoulder Squeeze or whatever that Dean got.

It's kind of a nice reversal of what happened with their mom's ghost in "Home."


sumi - May 17, 2007 5:19:06 pm PDT #1539 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

it would have been cool to be surprised by his appearance

Particularly since he didn't say anything. (However, his return was probably the most wide-open secret of the episode.)


askye - May 17, 2007 5:19:47 pm PDT #1540 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Too laid out for next season?? What did they want to be left questioning the whole summer?

This was good, I mean we get Hunt Down the Demons Escaped From Hell and How do they Get out of Dean's Dumbass Deal with the Demon without killing Sammy?


Ailleann - May 17, 2007 5:19:55 pm PDT #1541 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I also think it was John's silent way of praising Dean for doing what he asked... saving Sam.

But then again, I'm a giant sap.


Ailleann - May 17, 2007 5:21:25 pm PDT #1542 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

we get Hunt Down the Demons Escaped From Hell and How do they Get out of Dean's Dumbass Deal with the Demon without killing Sammy?

And Did Sam Come Back Wrong? And Does Sam Still Have Powers and/or Visions?


Anne W. - May 17, 2007 5:22:43 pm PDT #1543 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I mean we get Hunt Down the Demons Escaped From Hell and How do they Get out of Dean's Dumbass Deal with the Demon without killing Sammy?

Plus, with added pursuit by the FBI! I'm thinking that could interfere with the other two plotlines in some interesting ways.