Who died and made you Elvis?

Cordelia ,'Storyteller'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 21, 2007 10:44:50 am PDT #8505 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So men can have fandoms and not seek out or create communities about them?

My personal definition of fandom rides on community. You're just a fan until you start seeking people out based on them being a fan of the same thing--the more structured that gets, the deeper you get.

But I know everyone's mileage differs.


Allyson - May 21, 2007 10:46:21 am PDT #8506 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm trying to come up with a short list of book review sites/blogs to send my publicity folk, and I'm coming up confused.

Any faves? Advice? I'm unsure how to ask, "hey, can I send this for possible reviewage?" without sounding like a used car salesman.


beth b - May 21, 2007 10:51:18 am PDT #8507 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

so , basically they had an idea, but forgot to do their due diligence. I'm not a big fanfic reader - but I know more about it than the guys that put together this site.


flea - May 21, 2007 10:51:48 am PDT #8508 of 10001
information libertarian

Smart Bitches? [link]

Early Ink? [link]

Websites/blogs that review books are used to receiving ARCs. It's new to you, but old hat to them. Just ask.


Allyson - May 21, 2007 10:58:53 am PDT #8509 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Ohh, very helpful. Thank you!


Connie Neil - May 21, 2007 10:59:30 am PDT #8510 of 10001
brillig

So, when do we build Sang Sacre in Second Life?

Was that shudder that went through me one of orgasmic anticipation--or dread?


Dana - May 21, 2007 11:00:40 am PDT #8511 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

You know, I can't let this go without posting a response from one of the FanLib founders. He spammed this across several journals, and then ran around deleting it. Whoops.

"hey everyone, I'm Chris one of the founders of FanLib> it's really late and i have been working on the site all day. I'm exhausted but i just realized what was going on here and all of the commentsts are making me sick. we're a small company with 10 emplyees who work 16 hours a day to try and make a great website. we're real people! with feelings and everything! we have been working on this and dreaming about it for a long time and you are just here to shit on it without giving us a chance. i care deeply about what you think but this is crazy. we're good people here and you make us sound like we're an evil corporation or the govt. sending your kids to war or something. we really are all about celebrating fan fiction and fan fiction readers and writers. im sorry this is so short and please excuse the fact that i am cutting and pasting this across a bunch of ljs but i gotta get some sleep."


Allyson - May 21, 2007 11:03:41 am PDT #8512 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

So....he never read fandom_wank, then?


Volans - May 21, 2007 11:04:06 am PDT #8513 of 10001
move out and draw fire

My personal definition of fandom rides on community. You're just a fan until you start seeking people out based on them being a fan of the same thing--the more structured that gets, the deeper you get.

I think the community association is less important than the target association, for a guy. (all of this should be taken with a grain of salt, as I am not now nor have ever been a guy)

Take the Star Trek fandom, for instance. Very guy-heavy, especially back in the day. No creation of communities beyond the semi-annual convention and then list-servs. Now obviously the interwebs have made it easier to have communities, but these seem to be more by women.

Wow, this could turn into a big social/behavioural essay.

Another possible reason for the divide is the "what if" factor. Men seem to be more about the canon (learning Klingon, knowing the diagrams of Starfleet ships by heart), whereas women seem to be more about the extra-canon fantasy (fanfic, fanwanks, etc)

Allyson, what about The Flick Filosopher? She has been known to review books. [link]


shrift - May 21, 2007 11:04:16 am PDT #8514 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I've spent, um, most of the day reading about fanlib. That probably wasn't the wisest move.

Dude, not even FanLib wants me. It's that kind of day.