I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - May 14, 2007 12:06:24 pm PDT #7266 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

The teacher fake attack thing proves that Michael Scott has found a job in education in Tennessee.

At the presentation, I ran into another laid-off employee of my ex-company, who filled me in on a bunch of gossip and news from the month+ I've been gone. The short version: going to hell in a handbasket, including that an entire Reading program had to be recalled because the copyright permissions were for the authors work was not obtained. Like she said, that's Publishing 101 -level wrong.


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 12:11:13 pm PDT #7267 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm only 90% sure it isn't a date.

Then it's a date.


Jesse - May 14, 2007 12:13:48 pm PDT #7268 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It's not a date. I would go as high as 98% sure.


Kathy A - May 14, 2007 12:20:15 pm PDT #7269 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

an entire Reading program had to be recalled because the copyright permissions were for the authors work was not obtained. Like she said, that's Publishing 101 -level wrong.

Somebody wasn't following procedure, that's for sure! Reminds me of the time we had to fire an editor for lifting an entire section from someone else's book without obtaining permission--she had a JD, you'd think she'd remember the definition of "plagerism"! We had to do some fancy stepping to avoid a lawsuit.


Vortex - May 14, 2007 12:23:49 pm PDT #7270 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

she had a JD, you'd think she'd remember the definition of "plagerism"!

you'd be surprised. I had to deal with a lot of people who didn't know the meaning of plagiarism when I was teaching at the law school. I remember one case where they decided that she had plagiarized, but that she really didn't know that she had done something wrong, so she just failed the paper.


Allyson - May 14, 2007 12:29:20 pm PDT #7271 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I wonder what the mentality is there. Plagiarism was a huge no-no drilled into my head right about the same time we were learning creative writing in elementary school, let alone every course I took in college.

Is it that they don't consider it stealing? I'm almost irrationally protective.


Sparky1 - May 14, 2007 12:36:03 pm PDT #7272 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

I had to deal with a lot of people who didn't know the meaning of plagiarism when I was teaching at the law school.

Ditto. At least the student always claimed s/he didn't know it was wrong to cut and paste text from the Internet into his/her paper. ::rolls eyes forever::

I've had law school administration tell me that it is because "this generation" is so used to file sharing activities that the students don't see anything wrong with it. What the administration does about it seems to be related to 1) the rank of the law school (higher rank, less punishment) 2) the potential of that student to be a rich alum (I'm a cynic, but it comes from my experience)


Sheryl - May 14, 2007 12:42:04 pm PDT #7273 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Bleah, as if it wasn't bad enough that this cold keeps lingering, now the muscles between my shoulderblades have decided to tighten up. sigh.


askye - May 14, 2007 12:49:13 pm PDT #7274 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I did know a girl who flunked a class in college because she didn't cite anything and claimed she'd never been taught how to properly cite works.

I knew about plagiarism since third grade when a boy got busted for copying The Pokey Little Puppy for some creative writing thing we were doing.


brenda m - May 14, 2007 12:49:37 pm PDT #7275 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The thing is, even if you don't get the intellectual property argument, there's still the it's-cheating-because-you-didn't-write-it thing. That's pretty fucking obvious, I'd think.

OTOH, my mother had a couple of students (team project) who plagiarized off the handout so there's apparently a lot about it I don't get.