Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty flowered bonnet, I will end you.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 7:10:46 am PDT #7187 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

this accidentally humorous headline

Accident? I don't know--the main Jamaican paper is the one that accompanied a bestiality story with a cartoon of a goat being buggered. It might be an accident that it got all the way through, but the tone is different in the islands.

It's weird. I had this post about how this skinny (and v. pretty with it) woman at krav was idealising my body, and it just felt weird. Like I have no place to talk, since I'm not fat. But I'm not skinny either, and having been various kinds of bodies I knew were close to textbook (slimmer and/or more ripped), it....I don't know. Odd. Like I should shut up.

Which I'm not entirely good at, huh?

Okay, someone in a nearby cube needs to stop clipping their nails. Someone else needs to find their beeping device and kill it.

Kat? You still around?


Vortex - May 14, 2007 7:14:45 am PDT #7188 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Interesting distinction to make. We're not beholden to find everything sexually attractive, but do you think this statement is going to undermine any of what he's done in the eyes of big women?

no, not at all. You can think that someone is beautiful and not be attracted to them.


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 7:17:44 am PDT #7189 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can think that someone is beautiful and not be attracted to them.

But thinking a type isn't sexually attractive seems so much more politically rife. I mean, I know I'd bristle if a guy said he thought black women are beautiful, but not sexually attractive.

I wouldn't have a leg to stand on in an argument, so I wouldn't have it, but I'm trying to imagine seeing that quote from a white guy in the press, and what would happen as a result.


beth b - May 14, 2007 7:21:36 am PDT #7190 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I've written 16 convoluted sentences trying to explain what I felt - beautiful and even sensual are a judgment , or a quality I place on someone/something. Sexual attraction is more of feeling - which may are may nor be related to the qualities. ( this has a lot to do with the phenomenon I've noticed that the more you know someone the better or worse they look , depending on how much I like or dislike them )


Connie Neil - May 14, 2007 7:21:41 am PDT #7191 of 10001
brillig

You can think that someone is beautiful and not be attracted to them.

That's been my explanation for why my Kinsey score stays at 0. There are many beautiful women out there. None of them make me want to do things with them.


beth b - May 14, 2007 7:33:03 am PDT #7192 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think the statement "beautiful, but I'm not attracted to type X" could be hurtful -especially if said to you, who happens to be type x. But some people just have stronger attraction to a particular 'type'. My 'type' has gotten broader the older I get,so that i almost don't believe in the concept of type.


msbelle - May 14, 2007 7:33:10 am PDT #7193 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

hivemind

thank you note for an interview - via email or hard copy?


beth b - May 14, 2007 7:34:25 am PDT #7194 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

unless they are a very old fashion or low tech place, email is fast - which seems to count


beekaytee - May 14, 2007 7:36:00 am PDT #7195 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

We're not beholden to find everything sexually attractive, but do you think this statement is going to undermine any of what he's done in the eyes of big women?

The statement pinged me with 'Why? Why do we always have to classify people as sexually available/desirable to us?'

I say, "He seemed nice." My friend says, "Oh, he's gay." I say, "He seemed nice." My friend says "Oh, but he could stand to skip a few meals."

I'll confess to scanning for wedding rings when I see someone attractive, but it makes no sense to me that everyone is qualified as sexually available and/or attractive.

I so wished, given the excellent content of that story that the writer had left off that last bit. It seemed already explained (if it really needed to be) by Nimoy's snark over people wondering if he was a fetishist.

Then again, perhaps the too fine point was made at his request.


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 7:39:58 am PDT #7196 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The statement pinged me with 'Why? Why do we always have to classify people as sexually available/desirable to us?'

Because the article is somewhat about that. I don't think he's walking up to people and volunteering the information. Nothing said earlier in the article made him seem like the sort of guy who had to make it clear he didn't want to shag fat women, in case anyone thought he was some weirdo chubby chaser (feel free to replace that with your own derogatory term that fits the context).

In an article about expanding and calmly challenging view of fatter women, yeah, I think it's in context.