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Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - May 09, 2007 2:37:27 pm PDT #6464 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

The vegetarian parents I knew fed their kids meat. They figured it was a decision the kids could make for themselves later on. I dunno if they were health-reasons vegetarians or animal-rights-reasons vegetarians, though.


Hil R. - May 09, 2007 2:58:36 pm PDT #6465 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Every carton of soy milk I've ever bought has had a "Not to be used as infant formula" notice on it.

I don't think this really has to do with being vegan, more with just being stupid. There are PLENTY of vegan babies. Usually breastfed. There aren't any vegan formulas, but generally, the only problem ingredient is Vitamin D, and I would assume that if, for some reason, the mother couldn't breast feed, she'd either figure the almost-vegan formula was good enough, or find some way to get breast milk from a milk bank. (Also, the Vitamin D is derived from wool, so it's not even like the animal has to be killed to get it.)

As for the "is cheese vegetarian?" question, it's a little complicated. Rennet, which is the stuff that makes the milk congeal into cheese, is often derived from animal sources -- an enzyme from inside the cow's stomach. There are some cheeses that are made with a vegetable rennet. (I've been trying, not too successfully, to only use vegetable rennet cheeses. Cheddar is easy -- Tillamook and Cabot are both vegetarian, and their packages say so. Other kinds of cheese, there are lists available of which are vegetarian, but I have yet to find a mozzerella that actually lists it on the package, and I can never remember which are OK when I'm at the store.)


Hil R. - May 09, 2007 3:02:39 pm PDT #6466 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The vegetarian parents I knew fed their kids meat. They figured it was a decision the kids could make for themselves later on. I dunno if they were health-reasons vegetarians or animal-rights-reasons vegetarians, though.

Unless the father of my future kids has serious objections, I'm probably going to raise my kids vegetarian. (Maybe vegan, depending on where my own diet is at that point.)


§ ita § - May 09, 2007 3:02:53 pm PDT #6467 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The vegetarian parents I knew fed their kids meat. They figured it was a decision the kids could make for themselves later on.

One of the instructors at krav has only eaten meat once, and it was because someone (knowingly, the bastards) fed her some bacon, I think. Even though she thinks, for instance, that pork smells great, she's hesitant about going through the uncomfortable process of acclimating. Her parents went vegetarian before all their kids were born.

She's off to university in a few months. That will put different stresses on her diet.


dcp - May 09, 2007 3:13:37 pm PDT #6468 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Jesse - May 09, 2007 3:15:42 pm PDT #6469 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Obviously people can live their whole lives vegetarian -- Hindus aren't supposed to eat meat, right? That's a lot of people, even given the range of adherence to religious dietary laws in the real world.

I actually had a great mixed-group dining experience out of town with friends recently. At least one person in the group is vegetarian, and our meals were a mix of no-meat and two options -- most of us omnivores ate at least some of the veggie options, because they were delish!


Jesse - May 09, 2007 3:16:37 pm PDT #6470 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Did dcp break the board, or was that me?


dcp - May 09, 2007 3:18:04 pm PDT #6471 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

'Twas I.

What I meant to post was:

I thought a dog already went to space.

Laika


Jesse - May 09, 2007 3:18:19 pm PDT #6472 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, and my real point in my earlier post was that I don't see any real reason for parents to feed their kids meat if they're vegetarians.


sarameg - May 09, 2007 3:25:07 pm PDT #6473 of 10001

So what does a 4 year old ask when he finds out I met astronauts? Do astronauts FART? cue screaming giggles.

Farts are purple, by the way.

Child nutrition: the nephew is a human garbage disposal. The boy loves drinking the juice from canned green beans and carrots. Blearg. Well, at least he didn't inherit his mother's lack of adventure when it comes to food. She's strict meat and potatoes (and won't try anything different.) He had alligator and frog legs at his insistence last week. He'd probably love to go to ita's scary seafood place.