I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Cheese Man ,'Chosen'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 08, 2007 11:25:08 am PDT #6114 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

she just thinks I have no magic in my heart.

Well, she's not alone in that. Tell her about your spleen.

One of my krav friends said a few months ago that they were going to lend me The Secret, but it seems he's forgotten. Now, he's currently experiencing more professional success than at any time since I've known him, but I'm not willing to infer anything from that.

There's a hot guy in the Left Behind movies, which is how I know about them. Played a pilot, or somesuch. I remembered wondering at the time if he was one of the flock, or just cashing a paycheque.

the universe will read that as "I want to be sick" and you'll never be well again

The universe is stupid, huh? Really got no ability to pay attention and stay on message. Some example it's setting.

it's some Orson Scott Card novel that is apparently - get this - a retelling of the Book of Mormon set in space

Yeah, the first book of this was the last OSC I read. I don't actually know the story of the Book of Mormon, despite having had a copy for many years (the Mormon guy was hot, so leave me alone). Space didn't make it interesting, though. The Alvin Maker (Maker, right? I've got Speaker on the brain) stories were at least interesting, but then they stopped going anywhere fast enough for me.


Vortex - May 08, 2007 11:28:34 am PDT #6115 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Except for how it's not France, it's some Orson Scott Card novel that is apparently - get this - a retelling of the Book of Mormon set in space.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

(the Mormon guy was hot, so leave me alone).

Mormons are hot. I mean, it's just anecdotal from my good friend and his hot brothers and the hot one who came to my door one day (his partner was a TROLL (an exception), or I might have let him in)


Tom Scola - May 08, 2007 11:33:48 am PDT #6116 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I just went to slate.com, and the lead story was about The Secret: [link]


Daisy Jane - May 08, 2007 11:34:44 am PDT #6117 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

That would make sense, because I think Day to Day has contributions by Slate.


Jesse - May 08, 2007 11:36:34 am PDT #6118 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Except for how it's not France, it's some Orson Scott Card novel that is apparently - get this - a retelling of the Book of Mormon set in space.

Oh, that's so awesome.

Hey, I saw some Mormon missionaries in my neighborhood the other day for the first time, and there were THREE of them. I thought they always travelled in pairs?? The Elders who come to your door tend to be hotter than average, because they tend to be corn-fed 20 year olds. As far as I can tell.

I can't deal with The Secret. Although I'm with Beej in wishing just once I could be the one to slap a great marketing campaign on an obvious and/or stupid concept, and make shitloads of money off it.


tommyrot - May 08, 2007 11:36:39 am PDT #6119 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I just went to slate.com, and the lead story was about The Secret: [link]

Oh, that's where I first heard about it. I read half of that article and got too annoyed/depressed to finish it.

eta:

There's no secret to The Secret. The book and movie simply state that your thoughts control the universe. Through this "law of attraction" you "manifest" your desires. "It is exactly like placing an order from a catalogue. … You must know that what you want is yours the moment you ask." "See yourself living in abundance and you will attract it. It works every time, with every person." The appeal is obvious. Forget education, effort, performance. Everything you want—money, power, comfortable shoes—is yours simply by wanting it enough.

If nothing else, the claim, "It works every time, with every person" should arouse suspicion....


§ ita § - May 08, 2007 11:39:55 am PDT #6120 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My Mormon didn't come to my door--he came to my seat. When the hot guy you noticed outside the gate comes to the empty seat beside you on the plane because your behaviour intrigued him, he gets to talk a fair bit. He was very soft-sell on the religion, perhaps because I hauled out what I knew about it from OSC and that BYU alum that had just joined the NBA. Still, I left him with my address and an inscribed copy of the Book showed up a few weeks later.

He was really hot. I mean, my first reaction to him revealing he was Mormon was "Oh good! Then the chick with you won't be an obstacle." Which is perhaps impolite and beside the point.

Okay, back to database reconciliation for me.


Allyson - May 08, 2007 11:41:37 am PDT #6121 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

What bothered me most in the argument with my neighbor was that she was trying to hammer successes in MY life into that concept.

Which was crazy making.


Jesse - May 08, 2007 11:44:09 am PDT #6122 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What bothers me most is thinking about the email I just got from a relative with cancer who's all upbeat about the fact that he might be able to eat real food again soon, and the fact that The Secret people would say he drew the cancer to him with negative thinking. Argh.


askye - May 08, 2007 11:44:58 am PDT #6123 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

In Atlanta I saw a couple of police officers of Segways and I was wondering if Mormons could Segway instead of walk.

Also during the F2F at some point Wham!'s Careless Whisper came on and I revealed that was the first song I ever danced to with a boy and it was at a Mormon dance. My best friend during middle school was Mormon so I went to events at her church. They'd show movies and once it was Dreamscape --which so wasn't what they thought it was and there was a debate about letting us finish watch it and they finally did.