Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beekaytee - May 08, 2007 10:52:41 am PDT #6098 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Groan. I hate what is happening with The Secret. It's taken a quite simple notion...focus on what you want vs. what you don't want...and turned it into a joke.

I don't begrudge people making a living. Truth to tell, I wish _I'd_ thought of repackaging a bunch of superhyped/popular ideas in a skinny little book with evocative graphics and making a great Caesar's mint off of it.

But this phenomenon is backfiring and causing me trouble in my work. On one hand, I have a former client telling me that they recognize things I taught him in the text...but that he 'get's it' more now for some reason. On the other, people who shy away from anything that gets too big (Tony Robbins anyone?) rejecting things they could really use.


tommyrot - May 08, 2007 10:55:09 am PDT #6099 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What's The Secret? I mean, are you allowed to tell me?

The Secret is Fight Club!


Atropa - May 08, 2007 10:56:49 am PDT #6100 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

It's a book that tells you that all you have to do is sit around wishing for shit and it will come to you. Conversely, people who are like, dying in the Sudan are in their predicament because they were thinking too negatively.

Or, as my Very Wiccan big brother and I snarked recently, it's a book that takes the idea of making your will manifest and removes aaaaaaaaaalll the need for personal responsibility and work from it.


beekaytee - May 08, 2007 10:58:43 am PDT #6101 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Basically, the Secret is a rehashing of the Law of Attraction , which is itself a rework of operant conditioning with a metaphysical sheen.

eta: Jilli said it much better. That is the crux of my problem with it.


tommyrot - May 08, 2007 10:59:01 am PDT #6102 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Or, as my Very Wiccan big brother and I snarked recently, it's a book that takes the idea of making your will manifest and removes aaaaaaaaaalll the need for personal responsibility and work from it.

Yeah, from what I read, you can just sit around your apartment wishing you were a millionaire, and then... that's it, I guess.


askye - May 08, 2007 10:59:33 am PDT #6103 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Mom generally likes Oprah but because of the Secret she's rather pissed off at her for pushing such trash.


askye - May 08, 2007 11:00:59 am PDT #6104 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Slate just did a piece on it, evidentally you can't put any kind of negatives out there. So you can't think "I don't want to be sick" because the universe will read that as "I want to be sick" and you'll never be well again.


tommyrot - May 08, 2007 11:03:33 am PDT #6105 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Slate just did a piece on it, evidentally you can't put any kind of negatives out there. So you can't think "I don't want to be sick" because the universe will read that as "I want to be sick" and you'll never be well again.

I don't want to be rich.


beekaytee - May 08, 2007 11:03:54 am PDT #6106 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

If I were going to be charitable, I'd say that there is a teeny chance of a well-meaning intention in it...but given that the author is a former tv producer who saw the benefit of corralling all the best selling self-help gurus into one big happy money printing machine...I dunno.

I joke with my clients that they don't need to read all the self-help books because I already have...and this one might be a sort of 'Reader's Digest' ploy.

It includes more than just think a thought and it will be done...to be fair...but because the content is so thin, I think it is really meant as a gateway drug to get people to go to the various author's websites and buy their programs.

In fact, the website for the book is basically a list of all the other places you can spend money once you've gotten a taste of the Secret.


Vortex - May 08, 2007 11:07:34 am PDT #6107 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It's a book that tells you that all you have to do is sit around wishing for shit and it will come to you.

oh, right. Boston Legal spoofed this with Denny Crane wishing for Raquel Welch. He got Phyllis Diller instead :)