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Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - May 08, 2007 9:36:29 am PDT #6073 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Speaking as an atheist, I think that the whole furor over the Left Behind games is way overblown. I know at least one serious gaming site that gave it a decent review: [link]

I'm not sure why I'm supposed to take the game content more seriously than I would GTA.


Jesse - May 08, 2007 9:43:32 am PDT #6074 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Why do I insist on trying to use sites' internal search engine, when Google will find me what I'm looking for? In other words:

As to the question above (and frequently submitted) of why we put apostrophes in decades (the 1960's) and in the plural of some all-capitalized initialisms (DVD’s), the answer is we don't anymore. Phil Corbett, the deputy news editor who is in charge of the stylebook, eliminated those anachronisms last October, with this comment:

Our main reason for using the apostrophe had been to avoid confusion in all-cap heds, but with those heds long since eliminated everywhere but Page One, that rationale is no longer compelling. And the apostrophe annoyed many readers, who thought we were mistakenly using a possessive form instead of a plural.

We hear you, and obey.

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§ ita § - May 08, 2007 9:44:49 am PDT #6075 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure why I'm supposed to take the game content more seriously than I would GTA.

Because they believe it. Okay, that's harsh. But it's being presented as a point of view of the organisation, or at least cannot but be perceived as such by the majority of onlookers.

I don't think the GTA people are all about stealing cars for real.

Somewhat tangentially, if a game came out about shooting random black people, I'd be disturbed. Okay, maybe it's already out--I don't pay much attention to this stuff. Now, if that game came not so much from a gaming house who are all about profit, but from a religious organisation (all about prophets?) or anyone else with an agenda that's not primarily commercial, I'd be wondering how long the decision-makers behind that gem were going to still have their jobs.


§ ita § - May 08, 2007 9:47:02 am PDT #6076 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we were mistakenly using a possessive form instead of a plural

But they were! Okay, kinda. They picked a typographical symbol with a meaning and didn't expect people to flash on it?


Daisy Jane - May 08, 2007 9:48:43 am PDT #6077 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

And ita says what I would have said, had I known that's how I wanted to say it.

ETA: About the Left Behind video game.


Typo Boy - May 08, 2007 9:56:35 am PDT #6078 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Some white supremacists groups to put out games where the viewpoint characters kill Black people, Gay people, and Jews.


Topic!Cindy - May 08, 2007 10:00:51 am PDT #6079 of 10001
What is even happening?

Speaking as a Christian, I was horrified by what I read about the Left Behind game. The book series' eschatology is bad enough, but what I read about the game made me sick.


§ ita § - May 08, 2007 10:03:55 am PDT #6080 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Some white supremacists groups to put out games where the viewpoint characters kill Black people, Gay people, and Jews.

There I don't have to wonder. I know they hate me. I knew that the Left Behind people think I'm a heathen, but cannon fodder? Do they really want to do that to their image?


askye - May 08, 2007 10:11:59 am PDT #6081 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

The Left Behind books aren't really about converting anyone, the books are written for "Real True Christians" who already believe this stuff. I know the book talks about people getting converted, but not really they just had to have someone who could be there and walk the readers through what would happen at the End Times.


brenda m - May 08, 2007 10:12:12 am PDT #6082 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I knew that the Left Behind people think I'm a heathen, but cannon fodder? Do they really want to do that to their image?

I think this is exactly why the games didn't bother me much. I mean, on an intellectual/moral level, sure, but practically speaking, I prefer when the crazy leaks through to the outside.