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Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Vortex - May 04, 2007 6:42:10 pm PDT #5692 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It is kinda like a felt tip, with a little bit of give at the end.

I have one from Make Up For Ever that's great. It's firm, but a soft give.


DavidS - May 04, 2007 6:47:06 pm PDT #5693 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

mother question - at what age should I be able to have mac take a bath by himself?

I think Emmett was tubbing alone by 4 or 5. I just made sure the water wasn't too deep and checked regular.

Allyson, I need you to talk my publisher into doing my cover the way I want it.

ita, I'm begging you to look at my book options and use your artist's eye to think of something.

Feh - we lost tonight 8-7. We were down 8-1 until our last at bat and and we had the tying run on first. I had him steal second and as he got to the base and the ball arrived at the same time he just stopped. If he'd kept running he would've been safe easily. The throw was up the line away from the second base bag so it wasn't where he thought it would be. But if he'd just. kept. running.

I didn't even care that much that we lost. I liked that we mounted a threat. But it was just such a stupid brain lock.


§ ita § - May 04, 2007 6:55:21 pm PDT #5694 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hec, can you post the link again? I think you first posted it while I was PDA surfing, and I don't check links then.

PMM, it's Palladio and weird shaped. They say smudge proof, but that's a terrible lie. Doesn't need sweat or tears, just touch, and it's all over you. Until then, though, looks pretty good.


DavidS - May 04, 2007 7:00:23 pm PDT #5695 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Cover #1

Cover #2

Cover #3

The issue is that "Swordfishtrombones" needs to be treated as one word. Conceptually, that's what the album is about - the joining of disparate things into an unusual but unified whole. Anybody who knows the album would look at any breaking of the word as sort of mistaken and untrustworthy.

The designers don't want to deviate from the series template though.


bon bon - May 04, 2007 7:18:44 pm PDT #5696 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The designers don't want to deviate from the series template though.

While I'm suspicious that a fan of the album will literally be offended if the word is broken up (surely it's had to fit in plenty of design templates) and I can see the 33 1/2 people's point about sticking to their design, (after all, it's probably a significant part of their business model to have a unified front like the For Dummies series), it also seems like a small concession for them to reduce the font to fit a long word.


DavidS - May 04, 2007 7:20:05 pm PDT #5697 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

While I'm suspicious that a fan of the album will literally be offended if the word is broken up

I don't think they will be offended. It will be more like Liese's reaction, a mildly rueful, "No! That's not right!"


§ ita § - May 04, 2007 7:32:15 pm PDT #5698 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I see what you mean. I remember Pete suggesting the font be made narrower--that didn't fly?

If you want it treated as one word even when it's split I agree with the EE Cummingesque breakdown. Don't let me see sword or fish or trombones. I'd break it so that it's longer than it's wide, and on midsyllable so the eye has to keep reading to get relief.

swo
rdfis
htro
mbones

Or something like that.

Might even break it at the end so that ones is all alone--I don't know the album, but when things get Cummingesque, words popping out of bigger words is one of the things I like. But not the obvious breaks.


DavidS - May 04, 2007 8:09:39 pm PDT #5699 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I remember Pete suggesting the font be made narrower--that didn't fly?

Lead designer is trying to hold the line on brand continuity. I'm going to pitch that they cheat the template while maintaining the overall look. So, I will try to get them to at least mock up a narrower, more attenuated variation on that font. The only time it would look Not Right is if you are comparing it to another book in the series - it wouldn't look like it wasn't a part of the series.


§ ita § - May 04, 2007 8:18:02 pm PDT #5700 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I understand wanting to cleave to design standards, I really do. But that's a very distinctive cover template, and I think that squishing the font a little is one of the least obvious modifications you could make to it.

I admit, I like the breaking up of the text, but I don't know the subject matter at all, so that's a feeling divorced from the content at hand.

I seem to have lost one of my new, unworn earrings. Which I bought because I had a similar pair, but I lost one. Only similar, though. Can't wear both abandoned earrings together without looking loopy.

I know it's here somewhere. There's just too much somewhere.


flea - May 04, 2007 10:49:08 pm PDT #5701 of 10001
information libertarian

Who is Alan, and why is he silly?

Alan is our friend, and he is silly because Eve thinks so. He's a big flirt with little kids.

Eve is 3.5 and washes her own hair pretty well. She is very lax about the body washing, though. I don't worry about her drowning in the bath or anything any more, so I feel free to leave the room for a while during the elaborate plastic animal adventures, but she definitely needs supervision to be clean.