Harmony: Somebody remembered to pick me up the sweetest unicorn. Guess someone was feeling guilty for standing me up in tenth grade. Brad: What? Had to get her something. She sired me. Peaches: Sire-whipped.

'Beneath You'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Apr 25, 2007 7:29:37 am PDT #4342 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Somewhat relatedly:

How the media helped send us to war.

Bill Moyers’ new documentary, Buying the War, airs tonight on PBS at 9pm. The Washington Post’s Tom Shales calls it “one of the most gripping and important pieces of broadcast journalism so far this year, but it’s as disheartening as it is compelling.”

Moyers and producer Kathleen Hughes use alarming evidence and an array of respected journalists to make the case that, in the rage that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the media abandoned their role as watchdog and became a lapdog instead.

Exhibit A — the first event recalled in this report — is a news conference by President Bush on March 6, 2003, which Moyers says is two weeks before Bush “will order America to war.” The press conference was a sham, with Bush calling only on “friendly” reporters who’d ask friendly questions. The corker was this scorching investigative query: “Mr. President, how is your faith guiding you?”

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sarameg - Apr 25, 2007 7:29:58 am PDT #4343 of 10001

I don't do microminis, and besides, I'm already clad in trousers and at work!

I think me and skirts is weather driven. It's getting nice enough, though still coolish, I can wear the skirts with boots and not have to hassle with stupid tights or stockings or any ilk (I really fight with them) nor overheat. Eventually, it will be summer and I can wear them with sandals to beat the heat.

t if you are typing coolish and you typo it, it comes out coolisah which is funny! And true! She is cool!


brenda m - Apr 25, 2007 7:32:13 am PDT #4344 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Personally I think the withdrawal of Moqtada Sadr's people from the government is the really bad sign as well as the building of the wall in Baghdad. These are signs of factions becoming more entrenched instead of buying into the political process. I haven't heard anything about Maliki's government gaining strength and getting control of the security situation.

That's the thing, though. If any of those things were showing positive progress, then it might be unfair, or at least incomplete, to focus on the bombings. That's far from the case.

So, what? It's unfair to judge him on the bombings when there are other things so much more substantively wrong? That's quite a defense there.

(That second para is directed at Bush, not you, Gud.)


Frankenbuddha - Apr 25, 2007 7:35:13 am PDT #4345 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I almost understand the rationale that if specific goals are mapped out under which we will leave, that forces might ensure those goals are met so that we leave and then they take action again. Almost. But what's the alternative, aside from "we have always been at war with Iraqistahn"?

Either there are conditions under which this adminstration will withdraw troops, but they aren't telling them to the public, or they have never planned on withdrawing. Why do I suspect it's the latter (probably because Bush basically said as much) and that they are trying to so deeply entrench us in this that no matter who's in charge in '08 we can't pull out? Or are they banking on a Democrat winning in '08 so that any withdrawl makes it look like they "cut and ran"?


tommyrot - Apr 25, 2007 7:36:04 am PDT #4346 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So, what? It's unfair to judge him on the bombings when there are other things so much more substantively wrong? That's quite a defense there.

To me, it's just another example of Bush (and other rightwingers) saying, "If you point out any of the bad things happening (i.e.: reality), you're helping the enemy."

Just like it's "near treasonous" to say the war is not winnable, even if it's true.


brenda m - Apr 25, 2007 7:36:30 am PDT #4347 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hee:

Oh, Snap!
Harry Reid on Dick Cheney:

"I’m not going to get into a name-calling match with somebody who has a 9 percent approval rating."


DavidS - Apr 25, 2007 7:39:13 am PDT #4348 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

"I’m not going to get into a name-calling match with somebody who has a 9 percent approval rating."

Ha! Harry's got a little bitch in him.


lisah - Apr 25, 2007 7:42:25 am PDT #4349 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

if you are typing coolish and you typo it, it comes out coolisah which is funny! And true! She is cool!

new fave typo!!! and nice to hear today because i'm feeling very lumpy and blergh.

I'm wearing sandals today for the first time this season (my favorite white hush puppies w/ silver buckle from last summer). Which is pretty daring for me considering my toes have not yet been pedicured (that will happen Sunday).


Daisy Jane - Apr 25, 2007 7:44:53 am PDT #4350 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Somewhat relatedly:

And somewhat relatedly to that, did I ever tell y'all about my exboyfriend who was obsessed with Bill Moyers? Boy would have set up a Chuck Norris Facts-like website for him had such a thing existed back then.

Anyway, one day, mom and I are in an argument while he sits on the couch uncomfortably. I'm sure I probably screamed something like, "YOU'RE NEVER HERE! WHY SHOULD I LISTEN TO YOU!" and she yells back, "WHO DO YOU THINK FEEDS YOU? WHO DO YOU THINK PUTS A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD AND CLOTHES ON YOUR BACK!?!"

At which point J.C. enthusiasticly pipes up, "BILL MOYERS!"

It still amuses me.


shrift - Apr 25, 2007 7:48:42 am PDT #4351 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I could rock a micro mini ten years ago, but now, not so much.