Snyder ,'Empty Places'
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Shooter on campus seems like it would call for a loud blaring tornado siren type warning. Email can't cover that.
No doubt we will hear more than we ever wanted to about the sequence of events in the next few days. It seems likely that they believed the earlier shooting was the end of it.
I can't even imagine what the thousands of loved ones were going through this morning. I don't want to imagine it.
What did they do in the olden days before email?
When I was at UW-Madison, a guy came on campus and shot his ex-girlfriend in the head (she survived). Then he disappeared. A day later they found him dead in his motel room (suicide). But for a day no one had any idea where he was. There was no lockdown or official warnings to students (that I remember, anyway). The college papers did print descriptions of the guy, with the standard warning to call the police if anyone sighted him....
Shooter on campus seems like it would call for a loud blaring tornado siren type warning.
No one would understand what the siren meant and would run outside to see what was going on -- human kind is a bunch of rubberneckers.
Really, we've all got to get those chips implanted in our heads so we can be reached directly by those in authority. (no!)
This is an interesting debate.
I'm trying to figure out how to effect a prompt and complete lockdown of an entire college campus. If they locked down my campus, it's a good bet that I wouldn't find out about the lock down until I came to work. Which, okay, would mean they'd need to turn me away at the gate along with everyone else driving into campus--but that would require a very large security presence. Do most schools have that?
I'm trying to figure out if there would be any possible way to lock down my campus. We're not really a defined "campus" separate from the rest of the city -- there are a few blocks that are totally campus buildings, but then a whole bunch more blocks that are a mix of university and other stuff. But, on the other hand, most of the "other stuff" is World Bank and IMF, so I'm betting they've got security covered pretty well.
Which, okay, would mean they'd need to turn me away at the gate along with everyone else driving into campus--but that would require a very large security presence. Do most schools have that?
Do most schools have a gate? I went to large universities with no real obstacles along the campus boundries.
This is making me think about the shooting that happened at my grad school. I was probably 50 yds away when it happened. I have no idea what the official response was but I know there wasn't a lockdown.
A gate? We've got at least 6.
A big university is pretty big.
UW-Madison has a campusy area, but it also has some university buildings interspersed with the rest of the city. So I'm not sure what they'd do in a case like that.
A big university is pretty big.
Yeah, but most of the ones I know don't have any boundary like that -- there's no gate to turn anyone away from, just building entrances.
FTR, here's the emails the Uni sent out: [link]
I'm a little appalled at the time stamp on the first one. But beyond that, I do think that given the time of day and the circumstances, getting the word out and shutting down the campus would be a Herculean task.