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Spike's Bitches 35: We Got a History  

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Connie Neil - Apr 24, 2007 7:44:26 pm PDT #6652 of 10003
brillig

That's a perfectly fine way of doing math! That's what math is about! The equations and formulas are just ways of generalizing those patterns!

Dammit, why weren't you teaching math in Southwestern Pa 35 years ago! If I'd known my mind really was working on a mathy track, I'd be an engineer today.


beth b - Apr 24, 2007 7:49:01 pm PDT #6653 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

the question wasn't 'what is the answer' but 'why is the answer the right answer'. To be very honest - the right answer is a start, however, the why part is often more important in both the theoretical areas of math, and in the practical real world areas of a job. So I understand why he doesn't get all the points.

happy birthday young Christopher!

More ma ~~~ sending out to all in need.

and extra karma points to Aimee.


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 7:53:14 pm PDT #6654 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

xyz = 8

5(xy) + 15(xy) + 10(yz)

25xy + 10yz

25(8/z) + 10(8/x)

200/z + 80/x

Okay, I'm clearly doing this problem wrong.

Oh shit! There are four sides!

5(xy) + 15(xy) + 4 x 10(yz)

25xy + 40yz

25(8/z) + 40(8/x)

200/z + 320/x

320/x + 200/z

Okay, I'm still clearly doing this problem wrong.

Well, fuck, there's the part where I CAN'T ADD.

20xy + 40yz

20(8/z) + 40(8/x)

160/z + 320/x

320/x + 160/z

Well, shit, this has them all costing the same. I suck.


Hil R. - Apr 24, 2007 7:56:36 pm PDT #6655 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

P-C, you missed the part that said that the base is a square.


Connie Neil - Apr 24, 2007 7:58:59 pm PDT #6656 of 10003
brillig

Well, shit, this has them all costing the same. I suck.

Just remember, PC, the world hasn't lost a biological researcher, it's gained one less way for someone to say "whoops, forget that conclusion I announced to the world press yesterday, I did the math wrong."


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 8:03:22 pm PDT #6657 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

P-C, you missed the part that said that the base is a square.

I'm confused, then. Then there are only two possibilities, right? That the base is is either 2 x 2 or 1 x 1? And the base is automatically the top and bottom? So all you do is try out both possibilities?

20(2)(2) + 40(2)(2) = 240

20(1)(1) + 40(1)(8) = 340

I won!

(I saw the square thing before, but I didn't think THAT'S what it meant, because it made the problem way too easy.)


tommyrot - Apr 24, 2007 8:03:59 pm PDT #6658 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

P-C, you missed the part that said that the base is a square.

And the part that said the box has to be big enough to contain three spherical cows.

Anyway, I agree that the question really is, "find the dimensions that results in the minimal cost, using differential calculus to show why your answer results in the minimum." Even if the question doesn't say that exactly, it's implied by virtue of being on the test at this time.


Hil R. - Apr 24, 2007 8:05:57 pm PDT #6659 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Then there are only two possibilities, right? That the base is is either 2 x 2 or 1 x 1? And the base is automatically the top and bottom? So all you do is try out both possibilities?

Who said that the sides had to be integers? 4 x 4 x 1/2 or 3 x 3 x 8/9 or any of an infinite number of others would get a volume of 8 cubic feet, too.


tommyrot - Apr 24, 2007 8:07:38 pm PDT #6660 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm confused, then. Then there are only two possibilities, right? That the base is is either 2 x 2 or 1 x 1?

eta xposty...

That's assuming the answer is in whole numbers. (Too lazy to go back to the question and see if that assumption is stated.)

Anyway, if I were writing the question, I'd make it so it'd be much harder to guess in this way. Or else include the "using differential calculus, show why this is so" part.


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 8:08:32 pm PDT #6661 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Who said that the sides had to be integers?

Yeah, I just realized that. Oooops.

So that makes x=y.

(x^2)z = 8

20x^2 + 40xz

160/z + 320/x

Aaaand, yeah, I forgot how to do calculus.