Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


Spike's Bitches 35: We Got a History  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 8:03:22 pm PDT #6657 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

P-C, you missed the part that said that the base is a square.

I'm confused, then. Then there are only two possibilities, right? That the base is is either 2 x 2 or 1 x 1? And the base is automatically the top and bottom? So all you do is try out both possibilities?

20(2)(2) + 40(2)(2) = 240

20(1)(1) + 40(1)(8) = 340

I won!

(I saw the square thing before, but I didn't think THAT'S what it meant, because it made the problem way too easy.)


tommyrot - Apr 24, 2007 8:03:59 pm PDT #6658 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

P-C, you missed the part that said that the base is a square.

And the part that said the box has to be big enough to contain three spherical cows.

Anyway, I agree that the question really is, "find the dimensions that results in the minimal cost, using differential calculus to show why your answer results in the minimum." Even if the question doesn't say that exactly, it's implied by virtue of being on the test at this time.


Hil R. - Apr 24, 2007 8:05:57 pm PDT #6659 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Then there are only two possibilities, right? That the base is is either 2 x 2 or 1 x 1? And the base is automatically the top and bottom? So all you do is try out both possibilities?

Who said that the sides had to be integers? 4 x 4 x 1/2 or 3 x 3 x 8/9 or any of an infinite number of others would get a volume of 8 cubic feet, too.


tommyrot - Apr 24, 2007 8:07:38 pm PDT #6660 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm confused, then. Then there are only two possibilities, right? That the base is is either 2 x 2 or 1 x 1?

eta xposty...

That's assuming the answer is in whole numbers. (Too lazy to go back to the question and see if that assumption is stated.)

Anyway, if I were writing the question, I'd make it so it'd be much harder to guess in this way. Or else include the "using differential calculus, show why this is so" part.


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 8:08:32 pm PDT #6661 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Who said that the sides had to be integers?

Yeah, I just realized that. Oooops.

So that makes x=y.

(x^2)z = 8

20x^2 + 40xz

160/z + 320/x

Aaaand, yeah, I forgot how to do calculus.


Connie Neil - Apr 24, 2007 8:10:35 pm PDT #6662 of 10003
brillig

Brain hurty, go play with pretty words now. Sweep numbers into pile and leave for odd people to play with.


Hil R. - Apr 24, 2007 8:14:36 pm PDT #6663 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

OK, P-C:

x^2 * z = 8

z = 8/x^2

C(x) = 20x^2 +40 xz = 20x^2 + 320/x

C'(x) = 40x - 320/x^2

To find the minimum, find where the derivative is 0.

0 = 40x - 320/x^2

320/x^2 = 40x

8 = x^3

2=x


Polter-Cow - Apr 24, 2007 8:26:53 pm PDT #6664 of 10003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ooooh yeah. Now I remember that shit. Thanks!


Connie Neil - Apr 24, 2007 8:33:53 pm PDT #6665 of 10003
brillig

Ooooh yeah. Now I remember that shit. Thanks!

t I think they're "speaking" gibberish and hoping the rest of us will think it makes sense. I've got a better chance of understanding Xhosa


libkitty - Apr 24, 2007 8:52:53 pm PDT #6666 of 10003
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Sits in the corner with connie. Cries in pain from the splodey math. Notices connie and is much happier.

Seriously, I had a linguistics professor who would write fill in the blanks, where multiple answers would make the statement correct, but he never gave credit unless you guessed the one he was looking for. You are completely not like that, Hil. I get that, even if the math makes my head explode.

Also, much of linguistics is a lot like math, with rules and equations and all. And yet, I loved linguistics. Actually, when I think about it, I loved math too until I got the hockey coach for geometry, at which point, as mentioned above, splodey head.