I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Spike's Bitches 35: We Got a History  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Amy - Mar 26, 2007 6:58:01 am PDT #2291 of 10003
Because books.

Oh, Ginger, that's such a rough situation. I think it's totally worth it for you all to at least try to let him know you're concerned and want to help. Whether he can let you do that or not is, of course, up to him.

I've never been involved in one personally, but I bet there's tons of literature out there. Maybe try the Alanon website?


vw bug - Mar 26, 2007 7:00:08 am PDT #2292 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Maybe try the Alanon website?

That's what I'd suggest.

I'd also suggest writing what you want to say, and prefacing the reading of it by saying that you don't want to be interrupted...no comments till you've gotten it all out.

I'm really sorry you're having to deal with this. I know it's not fun. It's really hard.


Zenkitty - Mar 26, 2007 7:03:13 am PDT #2293 of 10003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Ginger, that's rough. You're good people, all of you, for trying.


Amy - Mar 26, 2007 7:05:29 am PDT #2294 of 10003
Because books.

Actually, I guess I have done it before, Ginger, but it was just Stephen and I dealing with a friend who had moved in with us (she had been evicted and OD'd, and had nowhere to go when the hospital released her).

I guess it didn't occur to me that it was an intervention, since I thought of it more as setting ground rules for behavior while she lived with us (i.e. not smoking inside and setting the bed on fire, not smoking pot on the patio while my kids were home, etc.) It worked sort of the same way, though -- we told her, "Here's what you need to do for us to be comfortable with you staying with us. Here's what we're willing to do to help you get back on your feet. If you can't agree to it, you're going to have to leave." Unfortunately, she did leave.

I think part of it is having kind of a plan in place, and sticking to your word about how you'll help him, and what will happen if he doesn't seek help.


Laura - Mar 26, 2007 7:07:24 am PDT #2295 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

I haven't done it myself. Your friend is fortunate to have loving friends that are considering an intervention. Most stuff says consult a professional, but this site has some planning and steps. [link]


-t - Mar 26, 2007 7:09:34 am PDT #2296 of 10003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Interventions are hard. If you can get advice from a doctor, psychologist, social worker, that would help. You might try calling a treatment center, see if a counselor would be willing to talk to you about what to expect and what you can do. There are guidelines out there, and they reputedly help. I'm afraid my experience is more in the line of cleaning up aftermath than intervening, so I can only be of limited help.


vw bug - Mar 26, 2007 7:12:03 am PDT #2297 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Ginger, also, prepare yourself for it not to go well. I don't know how to tell you to do that, but...


beekaytee - Mar 26, 2007 7:28:05 am PDT #2298 of 10003
Compassionately intolerant

You might try calling a treatment center, see if a counselor would be willing to talk to you about what to expect and what you can do.

This is so important, not because good, caring people can't come up with the words/steps on their own...but because there needs to be an end result. Just saying 'we love you and are afraid for you' is helpful to a degree, but 'we love you and here is where we are going to take you for help' has more power.

And, goodness knows, 'go get help' is the best-least useful advice on the planet! If you can offer a where and how, the subject of the intervention is much more likely to take that next step.

Bless you and your friends Ginger. Going through what leads to this decision is never fun...and having the courage to care that much is commendable.


Ginger - Mar 26, 2007 7:29:08 am PDT #2299 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Oh, we're prepared for it to go badly. We just think it would be hard to live with ourselves if we didn't try. We're planning to rope his sisters and brothers in on this too.


lisah - Mar 26, 2007 7:38:07 am PDT #2300 of 10003
Punishingly Intricate

ugh, Ginger, I'm so sorry that you all have to deal with this but lucky for your friend that he (still) has people in his life that want to help him. The only things I know about interventions come from the A&E show Intervention. And they echo what folks here have already said.