Gunn is dead. I don't want him to be, and my brain worked like a mad thing on any number of last-minute-escape scenarios, but in the end even the best of them was just too wanky. I'm very cross with my brain about this.
Yeah, that assumtption is hard to avoid, because Illyria pretty much told him he was dead man walking when he showed up.
I always suspected that Angel was still powered up on whatever he got out of Adam Baldwin, and stood a good chance of surviving.
I always figured Illyria survived - any being that can take apart a car without breaking a sweat isn't going to be fazed by a few hundred monsterous demonoid types.
I really like your Spike scenario on the why of survival, but not so sure I care for having him back in the era where he got turned.
Yeah, that assumtption is hard to avoid, because Illyria pretty much told him he was dead man walking when he showed up.
Well, Amy Acker said at a con a couple weeks ago that if there had been another season,
Gunn would have been a vampire, and he would end up staking himself.
Oh, no, he's not back in that era. He's just back in that alleyway, right now. Or right last year. Anyhow, not back then, just back there.
Oh, no, he's not back in that era. He's just back in that alleyway, right now. Or right last year. Anyhow, not back then, just back there.
Ah, OK. That's OK then. That's actually a scenario I could live with.
Yeah, I almost thought the same as Frank, but got it from the "neighborhood's changed" comment.
Didn't we have this conversation before, when the Angel comic Whedon did was announced? Because that was set after Not Fade Away. Wasn't it? Am I having deja vu or just making things up? It's so hard to tell the difference.
Aha. I am making things up. Well, a little bit. Whedon wasn't as involved in the post-show Angel comics as I thought. But it sounds like he blessed them to some degree.
And judging by a summary
everyone is still alive in them. Including Wesley. Without any explanation.
Which amuses me.
Interesting.
AD thought Wesley was dead.
In the "Lord knows what this is relevant too" department, I noticed a while back that the Wikipedia entried for Gunn, Spike and Illyria explicitly state they survived. The Angel entry also says he survived, but that it's "not considered canonical." The Wesley entry says he died. Of course, the source is HIGHLY unreliable. I've not read the comics, so I have no idea if that's what happened.