Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.

Gunn ,'Power Play'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Frankenbuddha - May 23, 2006 8:44:25 am PDT #9573 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Gunn is dead. I don't want him to be, and my brain worked like a mad thing on any number of last-minute-escape scenarios, but in the end even the best of them was just too wanky. I'm very cross with my brain about this.

Yeah, that assumtption is hard to avoid, because Illyria pretty much told him he was dead man walking when he showed up.

I always suspected that Angel was still powered up on whatever he got out of Adam Baldwin, and stood a good chance of surviving.

I always figured Illyria survived - any being that can take apart a car without breaking a sweat isn't going to be fazed by a few hundred monsterous demonoid types.

I really like your Spike scenario on the why of survival, but not so sure I care for having him back in the era where he got turned.


Polter-Cow - May 23, 2006 8:49:24 am PDT #9574 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, that assumtption is hard to avoid, because Illyria pretty much told him he was dead man walking when he showed up.

Well, Amy Acker said at a con a couple weeks ago that if there had been another season, Gunn would have been a vampire, and he would end up staking himself.


JZ - May 23, 2006 8:50:12 am PDT #9575 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, no, he's not back in that era. He's just back in that alleyway, right now. Or right last year. Anyhow, not back then, just back there.


Frankenbuddha - May 23, 2006 9:06:19 am PDT #9576 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, no, he's not back in that era. He's just back in that alleyway, right now. Or right last year. Anyhow, not back then, just back there.

Ah, OK. That's OK then. That's actually a scenario I could live with.


Sean K - May 23, 2006 9:08:31 am PDT #9577 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, I almost thought the same as Frank, but got it from the "neighborhood's changed" comment.


Strega - May 23, 2006 9:24:22 am PDT #9578 of 10000

Didn't we have this conversation before, when the Angel comic Whedon did was announced? Because that was set after Not Fade Away. Wasn't it? Am I having deja vu or just making things up? It's so hard to tell the difference.


Strega - May 23, 2006 10:15:53 am PDT #9579 of 10000

Aha. I am making things up. Well, a little bit. Whedon wasn't as involved in the post-show Angel comics as I thought. But it sounds like he blessed them to some degree.

And judging by a summary everyone is still alive in them. Including Wesley. Without any explanation. Which amuses me.


§ ita § - May 23, 2006 10:22:50 am PDT #9580 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Interesting. AD thought Wesley was dead.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 23, 2006 12:00:12 pm PDT #9581 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

What What WHAT?!?


victor infante - May 23, 2006 12:03:34 pm PDT #9582 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

In the "Lord knows what this is relevant too" department, I noticed a while back that the Wikipedia entried for Gunn, Spike and Illyria explicitly state they survived. The Angel entry also says he survived, but that it's "not considered canonical." The Wesley entry says he died. Of course, the source is HIGHLY unreliable. I've not read the comics, so I have no idea if that's what happened.