Yeah, I almost thought the same as Frank, but got it from the "neighborhood's changed" comment.
The girl's not playing with a full deck, Giles. She has almost no deck. She has a three.
Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'
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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.
Sean K - May 23, 2006 9:08:31 am PDT #9577 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Strega - May 23, 2006 9:24:22 am PDT #9578 of 10000
Didn't we have this conversation before, when the Angel comic Whedon did was announced? Because that was set after Not Fade Away. Wasn't it? Am I having deja vu or just making things up? It's so hard to tell the difference.
Strega - May 23, 2006 10:15:53 am PDT #9579 of 10000
Aha. I am making things up. Well, a little bit. Whedon wasn't as involved in the post-show Angel comics as I thought. But it sounds like he blessed them to some degree.
And judging by a summary everyone is still alive in them. Including Wesley. Without any explanation. Which amuses me.
§ ita § - May 23, 2006 10:22:50 am PDT #9580 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Interesting. AD thought Wesley was dead.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 23, 2006 12:00:12 pm PDT #9581 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
What What WHAT?!?
victor infante - May 23, 2006 12:03:34 pm PDT #9582 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
In the "Lord knows what this is relevant too" department, I noticed a while back that the Wikipedia entried for Gunn, Spike and Illyria explicitly state they survived. The Angel entry also says he survived, but that it's "not considered canonical." The Wesley entry says he died. Of course, the source is HIGHLY unreliable. I've not read the comics, so I have no idea if that's what happened.
Steph L. - May 23, 2006 12:07:52 pm PDT #9583 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
Hmm. That's quite a disregard for continuity on Joss' part. He could go work for D.C.
victor infante - May 23, 2006 12:11:34 pm PDT #9584 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I think Joss' opinion of canon is that it is until it ain't.
§ ita § - May 23, 2006 12:20:37 pm PDT #9585 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
JJ Abrams-lite.
Kalshane - May 23, 2006 12:29:18 pm PDT #9586 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Well, I haven't read any of the new Angel comics, but I was flipping through one of the "Old Friends" ones in my local store and it featured Angel speaking to an eye-patched Gunn so the two of them survived, at least. Though it makes me wonder what's up with monster-fighting mortal men losing an eye in the Buffyverse.
Peter David also wrote a Illyria one-shot recently, but I'm not sure when it's set.