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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Sean K - Feb 18, 2006 8:07:28 am PST #9202 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Superboy has Brock Samson's chin.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2006 12:06:27 pm PST #9203 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Finally got my hands on (the last, as the comic book guy kept reminding me) Batgirl. I figured the Lazarus Pit and her mother would be a combination that'd bring her back, but I figured "her" would be Batgirl. Instead we have a chick called Cain. Hmm. Hmm.

The back pages of all my DC comics says IC5 was out this week. It wasn't, was it? I didn't get it in my pull, and I didn't notice it on the shelves.

Have also read BoP--how does that timeline fit with the most recent issue of Nightwing? Firestorm was...well, very talky.


DXMachina - Feb 18, 2006 5:21:30 pm PST #9204 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Model Sheet from the upcoming Superboy and the Legion of Super Heroes cartoon.

Which is so strange given that it was Supergirl that joined the Legion in JLU. Also, however badly drawn, at least it looks like the classic Legion.


sumi - Feb 19, 2006 7:05:59 pm PST #9205 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

ita, isn't Cain already part of her name? Even before this last issue?

I guess I didn't understand how she came back if she didn't go into the Lazarus pit. Did her mother did so that she could live ?


Steph L. - Feb 19, 2006 7:11:11 pm PST #9206 of 10000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Sumi, I thought that Cass *was* in the Lazarus Pit. That was what the end of the scene with Steph (and boy, that actually made me a little sniffly, b/c they are SO the OTP) was about -- I assumed that Cass was dead, which is why we saw the Steph scene, but then Shiva tossed Cass in the Pit, which brought her back to life.


sumi - Feb 19, 2006 7:13:50 pm PST #9207 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, okay --that makes sense. (What about the other times that she was resurrected? Did we know about that?)


§ ita § - Feb 19, 2006 7:17:17 pm PST #9208 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sumi, I was reacting to the way she called herself merely Cain at the end of the issue--I'm assuming that's what she's going by instead of Batgirl. As for the other resurrections, I'd assumed (loving that ass) Mummy Dearest was referring to the three times of giving her life as a) birth b) giving her back her ability to fight and c) the actual Lazarus pit resurrection.


Steph L. - Feb 19, 2006 7:20:58 pm PST #9209 of 10000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

You mean when Shiva said "I gave you life 3 times"? The first was, obviously, giving birth; the second was in the storyline where this empathic metahuman somehow rearranged things in Cass' brain so that verbal communication was less difficult for her (this is in the second TPB, IIRC), but the problem was that that messed up her ability to fight in that I-can-read-your-every-move way, so Shiva came to her and basically said, I can teach you to fight the way you used to, but if I do, you must agree to meet me in 1 year (I think it was a year -- or was it less?) and we fight to the death. Shiva actually did kill Cass, but used some weird mojo (or phlebotnum) to bring her back to life. And then the third time was this time, thanks to the Pit.

t edit Or, what ita said. With fewer words.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 20, 2006 5:01:11 am PST #9210 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Astounshing #13 out this week according to the Diamond Comics list.


sumi - Feb 20, 2006 5:30:51 am PST #9211 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Excellent.