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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 12, 2005 6:32:15 pm PDT #8888 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I only hope that those characters are treated VERY reverently by DC editorial, Steph. The oldest two were given essentially a perfect happy ending, and if they are being pulled out of permanent retirement off in Misy Magic Land only to have some snot-nosed writer degrade them a couple years down the line to prove how edgy and cool he is (or, God forbid, have Golden Age Lois turn up stuffed into a refigerator at some point), I will go on the warpath .


Kalshane - Oct 12, 2005 7:27:53 pm PDT #8889 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I read IC #1 and have absolutely no clue what's going on or who the majority of these people are, particularly the old and young reversed Superman people at the end.

Guess that's what I get for most of my DC knowledge coming from the animated universe.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 12, 2005 11:30:06 pm PDT #8890 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hm, read Villains United...

Gail didn't do her homework. She has Luthor torturing and apparently fatally shooting Pariah. Who happens to be invulnerable on a level eclipsing the Pre-Crisis Superman—even those big anti-matter clouds that were destroying whole universes in Crisis weren't able to cause him injury. Admittedly he has no offensive powers, but defensively I don't think anyone short of the Spectre could harm him.

She should have had Psycho Pirate or Dr. Psycho manipulating his mind, a method that has been effective against him in the past .


Tom Scola - Oct 13, 2005 6:00:04 am PDT #8891 of 10000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Doctor Doom's Top 10 Euphemisms for Sex: [link]


§ ita § - Oct 14, 2005 5:23:00 am PDT #8892 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Matt, do we know that he was harmed? The failure may not be on the writer's part, but on Lex's. Which doesn't help that much, now that I think about it...


sumi - Oct 14, 2005 6:02:10 am PDT #8893 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Talked to a friend about IC #1, now thinking that I may need to read "Day of Vengeance".


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 14, 2005 8:18:54 am PDT #8894 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They had him scream in pain and then collapse while showing what looked like blood (the black ink Comics Code Authority-approved variety) dripping down. Also, those stint/probe thingies on his face looked to be penetrating his skin .

FTR, In Crisis #12 he was being batted around by defensive countermeasures that drew blood from the Earth-2 Superman and just waved the heroes onward while saying not to worry, he was invulnerable .


§ ita § - Oct 14, 2005 8:20:01 am PDT #8895 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fair enough. I never thought he was dead, though. But I forgot how invulnerable.


§ ita § - Oct 14, 2005 9:05:09 am PDT #8896 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Quesada talks about the upshot of House of M.

Hrrm. I just can't shake my skepticism. The idea of the "deep dark secret" that Professor X has been hiding for years makes me get a bit @@. Also -- there will be retconning of something:

in preparing for he story, he went back and found several moments that were never really explained when they occurred, and as a result, a "whole second story" can be laid alongside what was known to have happened.

Also:

there is now a mandate that no new mutants can be created wholesale - only five or six new mutant-based characters that were already in the pipeline will be seen. And that the ones going away won’t be coming back...

I wonder if that will affect anyone I actually like...


sumi - Oct 14, 2005 10:06:27 am PDT #8897 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Covers for Angel #4:

Illyria and Spike

Also a synopsis of the upcoming Spike vs. Dracula mini:

Presenting the first chapter of a five-part Spike saga spanning centuries! A hundred and twenty years ago, a tribe of gypsies inflicted a terrible curse upon the vampire known as Angelus... a curse that brought a terrible vengeance upon the tribe in the form of Angelus's family: Darla, Drusilla, and most notably, William the Bloody, a.k.a. "Spike." But the gypsy clan has a dark and powerful supporter: Count Dracula. Outraged over the slaughter of the gypsies, Dracula seeks revenge upon the three vampires... and thus begins a rivalry between Spike and Dracula that will cover decades. A rivalry steeped in blood... honor... and eleven quid. Corroney will also provide covers for all five issues, as will variant cover artists Zach Howard, Sean Murphy, and Eric Wight.

The covers:

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I think I like the second one the best.