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P.M. Marc - Sep 09, 2005 10:18:05 pm PDT #8714 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
P.M. Marc - Sep 09, 2005 10:28:03 pm PDT #8715 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think that many fans of superhero books do not feel especially kindly toward Ellis.
This hasn't been my experience, but I tend to avoid superhero book forums, so I only have real life and my fandom echo chambers to fall back on, and the Cult of Ellis is strong in my circles. Morrison is appreciated, but not reveared.
Of course, part of my shock may have been that I voted for Ellis, and I feel like I've been playing the chalk throughout, so to see him behind Morrison (who I adore, but who lacks the focus that makes Ellis so memorable) made the o.O face happen.
I was a little alarmed at how well Dixon was doing. He's good at world building, but outside of his Year Ones, he doesn't really do much beyond that, and wasn't he pitted against Moore? Should have been a bloodbath.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 09, 2005 10:42:08 pm PDT #8716 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Right now Moore's leading with almost 87% of the vote. I'd call that a bloodbath.
P.M. Marc - Sep 09, 2005 10:46:58 pm PDT #8717 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Right now Moore's leading with almost 87% of the vote. I'd call that a bloodbath.
It's a blood footsoak unless one of them's down to single digits.
And 13% for Dixon? Over MOORE?
I just feel it should be bloodier.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 09, 2005 10:52:21 pm PDT #8718 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
13% of the voters in my hometown cast for a sheriff candidate that advocated publicly televised executions and spent the night before the election in jail due to his DWI/no insurance/expired license multi-car collision that put two of my friends in the hospital. That's the number I always think of in terms of people grumpily voting against the lead candidate rather than for anyone in particular.
Strega - Sep 09, 2005 10:59:20 pm PDT #8719 of 10000
I think it's thoughtless of Ennis & Ellis to have similar names. And attitudes.
the Cult of Ellis is strong in my circles.Well, you travel in right-thinking circles! Heh. I didn't mean all superhero fans, but I think there is a portion of the audience that he's quite happily antagonized. I don't follow the comics fandom really (hell, I don't even recognize a lot of the names in the giant deathmatch), so my impression is mostly based on the WEF and comments I see when he does an interview. Which may not be the best sample, to be fair.
victor infante - Sep 10, 2005 7:22:32 am PDT #8720 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Morrison & Ellis was a nearly impossible choice for me, but I went with Ellis, because Transmet remains my favorite comic ever.
Johns getting eliminated early by the Gaiman juggernaut is kind of sad, because Johns is the current ruler and protector of mainstream, straight-ahead superhero comics and deserves a good fight, but I had to nod to the master.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 10, 2005 2:16:28 pm PDT #8721 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'm not too sorry - when Johns is good he's really good, but he's been one of the driving forces behind a lot of the stuff that I haven't liked at DC lately. I excuse him because the JSA gets more respect than anyone else on his watch, and those are my favorite characters.
By contrast, for me Gaiman runs the gamut from "best work in the history of comics" to "merely better than almost everyone else's work" depending on the project.
victor infante - Sep 10, 2005 4:44:12 pm PDT #8722 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
The problem being, it's apples and oranges. Gaiman's probably the best, over all -- no argument. But he also largely has complete control over everything he writes. As workaday writers go, Johns is among the best working today, even if he is stretched thin.
Don't think he deserves to win, but man, some of the others should get eliminated before him.
Oh well. Don't hate the playa and all that!
Hayden - Sep 12, 2005 6:45:06 am PDT #8723 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I don't think Gaiman has the depth of Moore or Morrison. When I re-read Sandman (or Mr. Punch or some of the other Gaiman books), the stories just don't resonate as much with me as when I re-read Watchmen or The Filth. I don't know about most of the other guys, though.