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DavidS - Sep 01, 2005 8:57:46 am PDT #8657 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Where are you getting Miller from that?

The "star fucking" comment later on. The general weariness with bringing in stunt writers who muck up the continuity. The fact that Frank's the stunt writer who is currently rewriting key backstories. Also, I've seen her name him in other interviews (but not in this negative tone) noting that they had to work around whatever changes he made.

But I don't know for sure. That's just who I assumed she was talking about it. Do you think it's somebody else? (Joss? Kevin Smith?)


Steph L. - Sep 01, 2005 9:01:31 am PDT #8658 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The fact that Frank's the stunt writer who is currently rewriting key backstories.

Miller's new title isn't meant to be canon, though. Which is good, because canon Batman isn't *actually* as fucked-up as Miller is writing him in the Batman & Robin title.


P.M. Marc - Sep 01, 2005 9:09:09 am PDT #8659 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

That particular quote seemed more like a comment on what went on with Nightwing, where her arc was disrupted by War Games, then interrupted by the six-issue NW:YO mini from Dixon and Beatty.

Miller's writing an out of continuity mini that doesn't interfere with any other titles. I don't know when the last time was that he worked on something actually connected to current canon.

I think she's speaking more to generalized trends, however, when it comes to Big Name Writers coming and making merry with the chaos. Meltzer on IC, Smith rebooting Green Arrow, blah blah blah. It's possible that having a Vertigo writer with a following come in and play with the regular DC toys also counts. (Trendspotting: Vertigo/Wildstorm writers who come in and write DC mainstream and wind up writing things that don't mesh? Willingham's not the first, and I doubt he'll be the last.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 01, 2005 9:30:51 am PDT #8660 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Bryan Singer has an upcoming DC Comics project that would fit the bill too, doesn't he?


Frankenbuddha - Sep 01, 2005 9:34:02 am PDT #8661 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Does Astounishing fit with current continuity or is it out-of-canon? I know it's a new title, but is it tied in with current X-titles (not that I'm reading anything else, just curious)?


DavidS - Sep 01, 2005 11:09:19 am PDT #8662 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Mmm, I was wrong about Miller's series being in-continuity.


victor infante - Sep 01, 2005 1:54:48 pm PDT #8663 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Astonishing is at the center of the X-Books, pretty much, and is very much in continuity.


§ ita § - Sep 02, 2005 7:06:59 am PDT #8664 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I quite liked the Ultimate X-Men annual, not least of because I'm all for killing characters, even ones I kinda like. And I hope that in this universe they can stay dead too.

I can't remember what's happening in the main title, so perhaps that's not a good thing.


Tom Scola - Sep 02, 2005 7:11:45 am PDT #8665 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Devin Grayson interview, part 2: [link]


Steph L. - Sep 02, 2005 7:16:06 am PDT #8666 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Read Wonder Woman #220 yesterday -- it went pretty much as I expected. I thought it was pretty decent, though.

Also read Robin #14whatever (I know; Willingham blah blah jerkfacecakes, but it was still on my pull list, and I hate giving stuff back to the comic guy and telling him I don't want it) -- and I gotta say, I was LOVING the Tim/Kon OTP 4EVah!!! With the flirting banter! And the "Let's get you back to my love shack apartment."!!! Ahem.