Am I the only one who doesn't see Batman: Year One and DKR as that big a deal? I don't think it was revolutionary as much as what the character had been evolving towards ever since Adams/O'Neal. If DC had assigned someone other than Miller to reboot the character, it would have ended up looking pretty much the same.
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Tom Scola - Jun 16, 2005 9:52:24 am PDT #8173 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
DavidS - Jun 16, 2005 10:50:44 am PDT #8174 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Am I the only one who doesn't see Batman: Year One and DKR as that big a deal? I don't think it was revolutionary as much as what the character had been evolving towards ever since Adams/O'Neal. If DC had assigned someone other than Miller to reboot the character, it would have ended up looking pretty much the same.
I don't think DKR was a big deal for the Batman mythos (though it certainly drew a ton of mainstream media), but I do think Batman: Year One was the reboot that most of the current canon is built upon.
::waits patiently for Ple, victor, amych or teppy to explain my thorough wrongitude::
Steph L. - Jun 16, 2005 10:56:07 am PDT #8175 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I've always thought that Batman: Year One is much more about Jim Gordon than it is about Batman/Bruce.
Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2005 10:57:46 am PDT #8176 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Teppy, I agree. I was surprised by that when I finally read it.
Steph L. - Jun 16, 2005 10:59:04 am PDT #8177 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
But I love Jim Gordon, so that ended up being fine with me.
My favorite Era of Jim Gordon is No Man's Land. He kicks so much ass.
Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2005 11:04:58 am PDT #8178 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
The friend I saw Batman Begins with hadn't read NML (which was the only place I'd seen Scarecrow before), so I let her borrow it. Jim is pretty awesome in it.
Tom Scola - Jun 16, 2005 11:07:54 am PDT #8179 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
I do think Batman: Year One was the reboot that most of the current canon is built upon.
Batman was probably the major DC character that was least affected by the Crisis reboot. The character was pretty much the same post-crisis as he was for about 15 years pre-crisis. Year One changed some of his backstory, but even then a lot of it was retconned away later on.
Jon B. - Jun 16, 2005 11:28:12 am PDT #8180 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I'm skipping a year's worth of posts to share this -- [link] -- It's Denis Kitchen's daughter and it's really good!
Gandalfe - Jun 16, 2005 11:32:16 am PDT #8181 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
Just read WE3. Wow. That's really, really good.
§ ita § - Jun 16, 2005 11:36:21 am PDT #8182 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Conversation had at the comic store today:
ita: Do you have Global Frequency?
him: What's that?
me: It's by Warren Ellis. [off blank look] I'm not sure of the imprint.
him: Is it a comic book?
me: [...]
time passes
him: You know what I really want to read? Sin City.
me: Well, I liked it to start out with, but not so much anymore.
him: Who's it by again?
Admittedly, he's not the regular comic book guy -- the last time he served me, he had to call someone -- not just to work out how to do the cash register, but for them to add up the totals of the comics I was buying and tell him how much cash to give me back.
I'd be tempted to close the store, rather than leave him in charge.