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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Anne W. - May 10, 2005 11:18:56 am PDT #8008 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I haven't had a chance to find a new comic shop since I moved. So, does anyone know if Blue Beetle is really, truly dead? Or if there's been any good Booster angst over the death?


victor infante - May 10, 2005 1:37:46 pm PDT #8009 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Jumping around:

  • Quite enjoyed "Day of Vengeance," actually. Good to see something come of Jean Loring, and I have mad love for Detective Chimp. Also liked the "transformed" Phantom Stranger, if only because it's the sort of thing the Spectre used to do all the time. Like the new look for Blue Devil, too.

  • And as to Anne's question, it certainly appears Ted Kord is really, really dead, but the Scarab is floating around out there, so either he'll come back as a super-powered Beetle, like the original, or there will be a new one. Also, Booster and Wonder Woman are currently searching for Ted, and Batman's just figured out Ted's dead, so I imagine we'll see some Booster ennui soon enough.


§ ita § - May 11, 2005 12:04:29 pm PDT #8010 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Astounishing question: Whose fist is that by Wolverine's head when he's taken down? A blue, gloved, fist. Apart from a Firefly ref (and okay, even or especially then) it doesn't make sense. I went back and looked at the Danger Rommie's fist, and it's clearly metal and articulated. I think I missed more than that, though, because I don't see how everyone's equally dead. Dude. Wolverine.


Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2005 4:37:04 am PDT #8011 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

ita the danger room seemed to have to ability to morph it's shape. There was another panel where it was doing a Stretch Armstrong reach with one arm. Also I suspect none of them are dead like a dead thing, though Kitty and Peter look pretty thoroughly kebabed.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 12, 2005 6:21:39 am PDT #8012 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It occurs to me that Xavier is able to make psychic contact with the danger room, and had a hand in designing and programming it. I'm not entirely convinced that anything we saw happening in that fight was going on outside its mind .


§ ita § - May 12, 2005 6:33:03 am PDT #8013 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can see morphing for functionality, but what would the point be of that change?


Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2005 6:35:28 am PDT #8014 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

what would the point be of that change?

Payback in kind?


§ ita § - May 12, 2005 6:38:27 am PDT #8015 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Payback in kind of what? Why would Wolverine get gloved treatment, and there was no non-functional morphing for any of the other kills?


Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2005 6:44:28 am PDT #8016 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Payback in kind of what?

Wait, I thought you were talking about the panel where Wolverine gets a blue fist with claws through the chin? I just thought since he'd been skewering the danger room with his claws for years, it decided to give Logan the same treatment.

Did I misunderstand which panel you were looking at?


§ ita § - May 12, 2005 6:46:47 am PDT #8017 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was the final panel showing Wolvie, and the blue gloved fist was near his head and him lying prone. In the panel you're talking about is the fist gloved? Because the avatar's fist is always blue. If it's gloved there, at least it's consistent, even though I think it's pointless.