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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2005 8:32:44 am PDT #7959 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, cool. Apart from the, like, details, that jibes with my memory. The broad outline works. I can see why they'd compress origins for a remake.

Having watched the FF trailer -- I still hate that Alba chick. The effects look nifty, and the Torch looks perfect. Doable. Watchable.


Tom Scola - Apr 30, 2005 8:38:44 am PDT #7960 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The origin of Dr. Doom: [link]


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 30, 2005 8:54:36 am PDT #7961 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

ita, I think you and I are one on the pre-impression of the movie. I just counter my worries about Alba with the article I read in a Chicago magazine last weekend about McMahon using his native accent in the movie. (Apparently Latveria must be a postage-stamp sized country in Eastern Europe that was settled by Australians...)


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2005 8:56:57 am PDT #7962 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, god, McMahon's Doom had better do a lot of really really bad things. Because that voice help me excuse quite a bit. Damn, he's good at arrogant.


Betsy HP - Apr 30, 2005 10:33:08 am PDT #7963 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

I thought Dr. Doom was the Nazi concentration-camp survivor?


victor infante - Apr 30, 2005 10:45:26 am PDT #7964 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I thought Dr. Doom was the Nazi concentration-camp survivor?

No, that's Magneto.


Betsy HP - Apr 30, 2005 11:03:29 am PDT #7965 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

t whaps forehead

Thanks. Seen one guy in a mask, seen 'em all.


Polter-Cow - Apr 30, 2005 11:39:39 am PDT #7966 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Is he also a Nazi concentration camp survivor in the comics, or was that just in the movie as an ironic nod to Apt Pupil ?


victor infante - Apr 30, 2005 12:07:05 pm PDT #7967 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Nope, that's the classic Magneto story.


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2005 12:14:17 pm PDT #7968 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Magneto doesn't wear a mask. He wears a helmet.