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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Polter-Cow - Feb 06, 2005 1:57:30 pm PST #7442 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

beathen has never read a comic book. I gave her the first Alias trade to read during the Super Bowl. Let's see how she reacts.


Jeff Mejia - Feb 06, 2005 2:40:32 pm PST #7443 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

One title I'd recommend to anyone is The Losers. It's a finely written and drawn action tale that is sadly getting too few readers.

P-C, Deadman is another DC here who was a trapeze artist who was shot, but his "spirit" or ghost was allowed to hang around earth to bring his killer to justice (and later, to work for the forces of good in the world). He is invisible to most people, and he can only operate/communicate with the real world by inhabiting a person's body and taking it over (the person has no recollection of this takeover). I'm exited to see him becaouse I just think he is cool, and actually collected the last series (which lasted only 9 issues) that he headlined. He just showed up in Hawkman last month.

Plei, I'm working on your Wonder Woman question, but my issues are all over the place and I need to find them all before I can get down to specifics. The main things I remeber was Dr. Psycho escaping, Veronica Cale's first plot against Wonder Woman failed, and the doctor friend of Cale was able to save the Silver Swan. Mars has some plot going (when doesn't he). Oh, and Batman had to help investigate something, but I think that was part of the "Stoned" arc.


Polter-Cow - Feb 06, 2005 2:46:58 pm PST #7444 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Thanks, Jeff. That sounds cool. But then how did you recognize him as Deadman if he keeps changing bodies?


Jeff Mejia - Feb 06, 2005 3:00:56 pm PST #7445 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

P-C, the readers can always see his "spriti" and he appears as he did when he died, in the "Deadman" person he used in his trapeeze act wiht white makeup and the red tights.

This is why someone (I think it was PMM) had a question of how Deadman fits in Post-Crisis continuity re: when Robin became Nightwing. In the original, pre-Crisis version (which began in 1967), he died in the first issue to become Deadman. My research on this issue has revealed a possible explanation, but I don't want to spoil anything for anybody).


Polter-Cow - Feb 06, 2005 3:02:22 pm PST #7446 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Thanks again, Jeff.

Ooh, new Batman Begins trailer during the Super Bowl! The new Batmobile is killer. Very DKR.


Steph L. - Feb 06, 2005 3:04:40 pm PST #7447 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Did my VCR tape Teen Titans and JLU tonight?

I've got 'em both on TiVo. Let me know if you want tape copies.

Yes, please.


DXMachina - Feb 06, 2005 3:15:20 pm PST #7448 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Why are we white-fonting general stuff about Deadman? He's been around for a very long time.


Jeff Mejia - Feb 06, 2005 3:41:37 pm PST #7449 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

I was just following P-C's convention, since he came up in discussion on Nightwing #102. Maybe a little over-zealous with the whitefont.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 06, 2005 6:01:28 pm PST #7450 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Deadman was a major (albeit stealthy) player in the Invasion! miniseries back in the 80s. That was post-Crisis, but just barely.


P.M. Marc - Feb 06, 2005 6:42:33 pm PST #7451 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Deadman was a major (albeit stealthy) player in the Invasion! miniseries back in the 80s. That was post-Crisis, but just barely.

Yeah, and an assload of that stuff's been retconned away between Zero Hour and other events of note.

(Notes that the painful post-Crisis Huntress origin story was totally redone, thank DOG.)