I like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb?

Buffy ,'Lessons'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


shrift - Dec 30, 2004 7:32:42 am PST #7120 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I got into a stupid mini-spat in scans_daily about her being a Mary Sue. How can she be? She's so freaking broken.

I can see where people might try to make an argument. Everyone in the Batfamily has some qualities that might smack of a Mary Sue, what with the brilliance and the pretty and the billionaire playboy super kung fu jujitsu mojo.

But the point they're missing is that each member of the Batfamily is so very deeply, irrevocably flawed. And not in the 'isn't that so charming?' kind of way, but in the scary freak-ass dysfunctional stalker vigilante kind of way.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2004 7:34:15 am PST #7121 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How can you be a Mary Sue next to the world's two greatest detectives? Or Babs, who seems to be the hacker extraordinaire and can still kick your ass from a wheelchair?

Have people not met superheroes?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2004 7:52:31 am PST #7122 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, it's kind of like griping about Superman being a male Mary Sue. Dude, that's the whole point. Siegel and Schuster invented Mary Sues. Or is that pants?


P.M. Marc - Dec 30, 2004 7:59:42 am PST #7123 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

They also kind of miss that if Cass were a Mary Sue, people would react to her the way they tended to react to Donna, instead of they way they actually do.


Steph L. - Jan 02, 2005 9:33:17 am PST #7124 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Ahahahaha! DCU/The O.C. crossover fic! Kid Flash/Seth.


Holli - Jan 02, 2005 2:02:13 pm PST #7125 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Steph, I read that, and it's amaaaazing. There needs to be more DCU crossover fic in the world.


Tom Scola - Jan 04, 2005 5:32:48 am PST #7126 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

R.I.P. Will Eisner.


CaBil - Jan 04, 2005 5:40:28 am PST #7127 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Oh no...

He was heard to be doing so well afterwards! I attended several talks he has given, and was always entertained by his stories of the early days of comics, and challenged by his hopes of what comics/sequential art could achieve.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2005 7:04:34 am PST #7128 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Damn. That's a legend and an era gone.

This week's projected haul:

  • Firestorm #9
  • Ultimate X-Men #54

I may flip through JLE in the store. I skimmed the first six -- didn't like them enough to buy, but kinda interesting. The lead chick with the fake arms is very compelling, and of course, there's my girl. I'll definitely flip through XMen FF -- my urge to completeness doesn't compel me to buy any more. Especially after seeing Joss write a much better bristly encounter between the two teams. And I'll be sure to skim Endsong before plunking down the cash.

Does anyone read The Authority? I read the Yuletide challenge fic that shrift wrote, and it was her fandom. I googled a bit, and found it has a supertextual same sex couple. Is it any good?

Where have all the comics gone? My habit seems almost manageable.


DavidS - Jan 04, 2005 7:33:45 am PST #7129 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

R.I.P. Will Eisner.

Awww, fuck. Not only one of the giants of the art form, but a good man too. A major innovator as an artist, designer, writer and businessman. Also, he drew the hottest women ever.