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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


esse - Dec 01, 2004 1:39:50 pm PST #6778 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I think the best part of the Fugitive series is that the third book covers Sasha, and how the story just doesn't end when the bad is defeated. It's the strength of the story, showing the aftermath.

I liked Red Son (a tremendous amount)

Oh my god, so did I. I read it on the train coming back from London, and I literally shouted at the last page/panel, causing my friends to stare at me, then burst out laughing.


Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2004 1:50:29 pm PST #6779 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think the best part of the Fugitive series is that the third book covers Sasha, and how the story just doesn't end when the bad is defeated. It's the strength of the story, showing the aftermath.

So I gather the bad is defeated by the end of Volume 2? That makes sense, considering the people who could live without Volume 3 for a while. I'm really damn glad I picked up the Fugitive volumes with Murderer? because after reading the latter, I definitely required the former. And Volume 1, though it did end nicely, did leave me wanting Volume 2. I'm not done with Volume 2 yet, but yay! I have Volume 3 (neither of the comic book stores had it, but Borders did). I can't wait, cause I like Sasha.

Y: Dude! Need next issue NOW, dammit. Stop teasing us, Vaughan!

I read last week's Batgirl after Teppy's raves (and my newfound Cass love). It was good, but the...ellipses kind of bugged. I understand what they represented, but still. Also, cliffhanger! How will this affect Dick? Though I'll bet it's a a fakeout, and it's just Blockbuster's corpse propped up or something.

And hey! Ultimates Season 2 or whatever they want to call it! Good stuff.


esse - Dec 01, 2004 1:59:26 pm PST #6780 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

because after reading the latter, I definitely required the former.

Dude, you're telling me. I read Murderer in April and had to wait until August to read the three Fugitives.


Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2004 2:04:39 pm PST #6781 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I read Murderer in April and had to wait until August to read the three Fugitives.

Oh Christ, man. Cause see, I figured they'd resolve the murder by the end of Murderer? you know? But no. It was strange how there're only maybe a couple issues devoted to the actual solving of the murder (there are more in Fugitive ). Much of the book is devoted to the reactions and repercussions. And, well, it's cool that it propelled itself so well on just that.


DKR - Dec 01, 2004 3:21:45 pm PST #6782 of 10000
Respect is Back. Fear is Next.

"I am unfamiliar with this story, but I'm sure others in this thread aren't."

Re the Batman vamp re-imaginings. I like the way the story takes a new twist to some of the old vamp traditions. In the first book, Batman uses his own blood to scratch up the image of a crucifix to hold the fully demonized Dracula at bay in the sewers. The artwork corresponds with the ongoing depravity of the trilogy. By Crimson Mist, Batman is a decaying hulk of evil.

Overall, it's a winner in the Elseworlds genre.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2004 8:24:11 am PST #6783 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My key favourite thing across the Batman Elseworlds was the fixation on his defining event, and how the nature (not just the occurence) drove what he became. Obviously the groundwork for obsession was laid, but I think I'd assumed the groundwork for Batman was kinda laid. No -- it was jammed in by the trauma. So he could be made good or evil right there.

Fugitive question: Nightwing calls himself a killer there, in one frame. What's that about?


Steph L. - Dec 02, 2004 8:31:18 am PST #6784 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Fugitive question: Nightwing calls himself a killer there, in one frame. What's that about?

He killed the Joker.

The Joker obviously got better.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2004 8:33:21 am PST #6785 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

D'oh. It's not like PC didn't ask that same question.

I need to remember to go back and really read when I have the context to assimilate.

It kinda undercut the Blockbuster angst for me, though.


amych - Dec 02, 2004 8:40:26 am PST #6786 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

It kinda undercut the Blockbuster angst for me

No shit -- I have a great and ongoing issue with the Blockbuster angst as something that could drive 6 months worth of plot. The Joker angst was "what have I done?!" whereas this is more "what if Daddy finds out?" -- not quite as convincing, as big existential traumas go.


shrift - Dec 02, 2004 8:41:10 am PST #6787 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

It was good, but the...ellipses kind of bugged. I understand what they represented, but still.

It didn't bug me. I can't think of terribly many tools a writer can use in an internal monologue to show someone who is still struggling with language, communication, and verbalization.

Then again, I was rather preoccupied going "OMG ♥!!!" over Cass and Tim, and an explanation of events which actually made sense.