Does "Jossverse in Other Media" cover what other characters in other shows say when referring to the show? Like in tonight's Gilmore Girls, when Rory, upon learning Paris is going to "put herself out" for the evening, asks "Who are you going to hook up with, Spike and Drusilla?" Does that count?

Does "Jossverse in Other Media" cover what other characters in other shows say when referring to the show?

Originally, I think it was meant to encompass the actual Jossverse in other media (namely, Fray ), but as far as I can tell, it's now a general comics thread.

Random Buffy references are usually announced in Natter (Vonnie scooped you, man), or the Buffy thread.

Incidentally, the DKR wouldn't happen to be Dark Knight Returns, would it?

Yep. DKR means Dark Knight Returns. I'm a huge fan of the original, not so much of the sequel, which I found a bit messy and a bit overdone. But Miller's 1986 work is my favorite Batman tale. My second favorite is the Elseworlds Red Rain/Bloodstorm/Crimson Mist story.

I'm a huge fan of the original,

As are most people.

not so much of the sequel,

As are most people, I think.

which I found a bit messy and a bit overdone.

I haven't bothered to check it out. I kind of don't want to, as if it'll taint the awesomeness of DKR.

My second favorite is the Elseworlds Red Rain/Bloodstorm/Crimson Mist story.

I am unfamiliar with this story, but I'm sure others in this thread aren't.

Those are the vampire re-imaginings, right?

I admit, I'm more partial to the stories where Selina isn't actually feline. I liked Red Son (a tremendous amount), and the Chaykin one also comes to mind.

Uh, unspoilerishly, what does the third volume of Fugitive cover?

It mostly deals with the fate of Sasha Bordeaux, who was still in jail at the end of Vol. 2. It also shows Bruce integrating himself back into society.

It also collects Batgirl #33, which is probably even cooler than what you're talking about above.

It mostly deals with the fate of Sasha Bordeaux, who was still in jail at the end of Vol. 2.

Really? Awesome. I read the Sasha issue last night and had a "That's my girl" moment at the end. Still haven't finished Vol. 2, but I hope to get Vol. 3 today. Either Borders or the comic book store better have it!

It also collects Batgirl #33, which is probably even cooler than what you're talking about above.

Father's Day? Uhuh.

Thanks! The end of #2 was weird -- if you hadn't said there was a #3, I'd not have gone looking.

Though I was coming back here to ask about Sasha.

I think the best part of the Fugitive series is that the third book covers Sasha, and how the story just doesn't end when the bad is defeated. It's the strength of the story, showing the aftermath.

I liked Red Son (a tremendous amount)

Oh my god, so did I. I read it on the train coming back from London, and I literally shouted at the last page/panel, causing my friends to stare at me, then burst out laughing.