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Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 28, 2004 4:47:33 pm PST #6687 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I trust you mean the Esteban Marato art of the miniseries and not Ernie Colon's from the original series? Please?


Polter-Cow - Nov 28, 2004 7:57:53 pm PST #6688 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, this is kind of an important question. In Murderer? Dick mentions he "killed the Joker." When the hell did this happen? One, I know the Joker's not actually dead, because he never is, but what does he mean by this, because I would think this would change the whole Blockbuster situation a little.

Also, what trade has this story of Dick being accused of murder? It sounds interesting.

And did Cass beat Shiva in between Murderer? and Fugitive ? That's what it seems like, but I thought they came directly after each other.

Oh, and I'm so confused as to who knows Batman's secret identity and who doesn't, both at this point and currently.

And I really need to read Officer Down.

You know...the way the story's being spun, how it blames Bruce's reaction on a bad year (to put it simply, as I don't remember what all was supposed to have occurred in this year) now reminds me of what Bendis did with Matt Murdock and his nervous breakdown.

Oh, and he he he. They've used the "The butler did it" joke twice. The second time, to better humorous effect.

Man oh man, I am so in love with this story. It better stay good, and it better end well, and make sense.


P.M. Marc - Nov 28, 2004 8:16:14 pm PST #6689 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Dick kills the Joker (short term--CPR is magical in the DCverse) in Last Laugh, in a fit of passion, thinking the Joker had killed Tim. Dick reacted to what he did by moping for a while and refusing to answer his phone.

Cass defeated Shiva in Batgirl #25, which comes in between the Batgirl issues of Murder and Fugitive.

Nightwing: The Target is a one-shot that came out under DC's prestige format, and it's Dick as a police officer who's been accused of murder. It's pretty good.


Mr. Broom - Nov 28, 2004 8:17:44 pm PST #6690 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Just finished Endless Nights. I have now read the entirety of the core Sandman stuff. I've got the shakes and the cold sweats already. More, goddammit.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 28, 2004 8:24:24 pm PST #6691 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Defeated Lady Shiva in hand-to-hand combat?!?


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2004 8:25:12 pm PST #6692 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's my girl!


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 28, 2004 8:28:22 pm PST #6693 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I thought Batman himself would need to resort to utility belt trickery to manage that?


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2004 8:29:33 pm PST #6694 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She can beat Batman, you know. I mean, I don't think she can outthink him, and so would lose, but she can outfight him.


P.M. Marc - Nov 28, 2004 9:07:48 pm PST #6695 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Defeated Lady Shiva in hand-to-hand combat?!?

It worked, the way they did it.


esse - Nov 29, 2004 1:38:59 am PST #6696 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Piffle. SA was infinitely cool to begin with.

You people, with your nice. Thank you.

Okay, I'm three issues into Fugitive, Volume 2, and may I just say, regarding Murderer and Fugitive:

This. Fucking. Rocks.

I read it on the rec of Tom Scola, and it was the push that tipped me over into actually being a *fan* of comics versus someone who just listens with a grin as her friends talk about them. It also made me fall for Batgirl.