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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2004 5:47:55 pm PST #6416 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

(Isn't he responsible for the RV of Doom episode?)

is an unabashed "Spiral" lover

And yeah, it's varied (he did work on "The Girl in Question," though it's likely he was responsible for the good parts involving Illyria), but there's much good.


victor infante - Nov 12, 2004 7:20:19 pm PST #6417 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I hear Fables is good. However, his Batverse stuff is wretched.

Oh yeah. It's like me and Bendis. I admit a lot of his work, such as "Alias" and "Powers," is brilliant. But his work on "Avengers" sends me into white hot fits of rage.

Some people just shouldn't play with other people's toys.


§ ita § - Nov 12, 2004 8:26:46 pm PST #6418 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Victor, I was going to ask -- is it the normal Avenger line where he incurred your wrath?

Have you read The Ultimates?


Holli - Nov 12, 2004 9:26:08 pm PST #6419 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Did Bendis work on Ultimates? For some reason, I thought that was Millar.

Either way, I'm not a fan, though I like most of Bendis' work.


DXMachina - Nov 13, 2004 12:58:43 am PST #6420 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Bendis is writing the normal Avengers line. Badly. Apparently someone told him in a dream that all the Avengers must die, and he's just following that dream. But I love his Powers to death.

I didn't much care for Ultimates. Every single character is a dick.

As far as the strangling goes, didn't they finger Slipknot for that?

Slipknot was cleared by Wonder Woman's magic lasso o' truth. Plus he was in prison at the time of the attack on Jean.


§ ita § - Nov 13, 2004 3:53:27 am PST #6421 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Holli. DX, are you both Avengers fans?

Me, I like Ultimates, pretty much, but I don't think I've ever read an Avengers issue that wasn't crossing over with the X, so I have no sense of what went before, and not attachment to it.


DXMachina - Nov 13, 2004 4:33:13 am PST #6422 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The first issue of Avengers I ever read was #4, the one where they fished Captain America out of the ocean. It was one of my favorite books for a while.


Theodosia - Nov 13, 2004 4:45:26 am PST #6423 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

My first Avengers -- and it could actually be considered my first comic book in some ways, at least superhero comics that I consciously bought -- was somethign like #96, where Pietro kidnaps the son of the creator of the Sentinels and runs him across Australia in order to shut them down so that his sister Wanda could be saved. So very cool....


Polter-Cow - Nov 13, 2004 4:55:20 am PST #6424 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I love The Ultimates. Fun shit. And yeah, Holli, it's Millar. Though Bendis wrote Ultimate Six, which was the Ultimates + Spidey.

HULK WANT FREDDIE PRINZE JR.!


§ ita § - Nov 13, 2004 6:05:43 am PST #6425 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So who has Bendis offed?

I'm trying to work out how much fucking with the Avengers is too much, and within what context.