I'm supposed to deliver you to the Master now. There's this whole deal where I get to be immortal. Are you cool with that?

Xander ,'Lessons'


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Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2004 5:35:45 pm PST #6412 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Stop! meara time!

Well, perhaps with a writer who had any respect for the characters and/or continuity, it might have worked out.

BW, however, has neither.

This is the point where I stick up for Bill Willingham and his awesome work on Fables, even though I respect your dislike of his take on Robin, which I can't evaluate.

I choked up a little when Wolverine said "Well, then I have two words for you..." I'm a sap like that.

I'm glad I learned about the fastball special earlier this year, so I got that. That was pretty sweet.

Steph, that was the best part.

Yeah, that was pretty great indeed. I thought the cover was overdramatic and misleading, but I've noticed that about the most recent slew of Nightwing covers.

And re: IC #6. Pretty much the same reaction. I agree with DX on the fact that Atom's narration, which states that he believes Dr. Light was the murderer, would be undermined by his guilt, and it wouldn't be playing fair. As far as the strangling goes, didn't they finger Slipknot for that? It's been clear the same person hasn't been killing everyone; Captain Boomerang was hired for the latest murder. Atom could merely be calling Calculator's shots after having killed Sue. I should have known. It's always the second one. Even in R.L. Stine's The Prom Queen, it's the second murder that's the misdirect. Like DX said, this is an old trick, throwing suspicion off yourself by being a victim. And it's always the second one! But not being well versed in DC, I can't see a motive, really. I can't imagine Atom would kill all these people just to get back with his wife. That's just...dumb. And sadistic.

Also, someone in this very thread pointed out, way back when, the discrepancy of Batman's presence when Dr. Light got his memories back, and wondered whether it was significant or an error. Kudos to you. Kudos to you.


P.M. Marc - Nov 12, 2004 5:42:04 pm PST #6413 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

This is the point where I stick up for Bill Willingham and his awesome work on Fables, even though I respect your dislike of his take on Robin, which I can't evaluate.

I hear Fables is good.

However, his Batverse stuff is wretched.


Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2004 5:44:25 pm PST #6414 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I hear Fables is good.

However, his Batverse stuff is wretched.

I'll buy that. After all, DeKnight's work on Buffy and Angel is good, and his Smallville stuff is wretched.

Whooooaa, weird. "Save Me" just came up on Winamp.


sumi - Nov 12, 2004 5:45:41 pm PST #6415 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I would say that DeKnight's work on ME shows is varied. (Isn't he responsible for the RV of Doom episode?)


Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2004 5:47:55 pm PST #6416 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

(Isn't he responsible for the RV of Doom episode?)

is an unabashed "Spiral" lover

And yeah, it's varied (he did work on "The Girl in Question," though it's likely he was responsible for the good parts involving Illyria), but there's much good.


victor infante - Nov 12, 2004 7:20:19 pm PST #6417 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I hear Fables is good. However, his Batverse stuff is wretched.

Oh yeah. It's like me and Bendis. I admit a lot of his work, such as "Alias" and "Powers," is brilliant. But his work on "Avengers" sends me into white hot fits of rage.

Some people just shouldn't play with other people's toys.


§ ita § - Nov 12, 2004 8:26:46 pm PST #6418 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Victor, I was going to ask -- is it the normal Avenger line where he incurred your wrath?

Have you read The Ultimates?


Holli - Nov 12, 2004 9:26:08 pm PST #6419 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Did Bendis work on Ultimates? For some reason, I thought that was Millar.

Either way, I'm not a fan, though I like most of Bendis' work.


DXMachina - Nov 13, 2004 12:58:43 am PST #6420 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Bendis is writing the normal Avengers line. Badly. Apparently someone told him in a dream that all the Avengers must die, and he's just following that dream. But I love his Powers to death.

I didn't much care for Ultimates. Every single character is a dick.

As far as the strangling goes, didn't they finger Slipknot for that?

Slipknot was cleared by Wonder Woman's magic lasso o' truth. Plus he was in prison at the time of the attack on Jean.


§ ita § - Nov 13, 2004 3:53:27 am PST #6421 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Holli. DX, are you both Avengers fans?

Me, I like Ultimates, pretty much, but I don't think I've ever read an Avengers issue that wasn't crossing over with the X, so I have no sense of what went before, and not attachment to it.