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DXMachina - Nov 11, 2004 5:52:31 am PST #6370 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Frank, the only other people that I can think of in the DC universe are Jean Loring (she shrank with Atom in the first issue, and has access to all his stuff), and Shrinking Violet of the Legion (who's currently having her continuity frelled with again in the 31st century).


Frankenbuddha - Nov 11, 2004 5:58:13 am PST #6371 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

DX, are there any types who can absorb powers, temporarily?


CaBil - Nov 11, 2004 6:06:31 am PST #6372 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Frankenbuddha, the question Batman asked a few issues ago in IC was this, "Who benefits?" And the question can be answered by the fact that with all of the family members of the heroes being drawn closer, the fact that Ray gets back together with his wife can be overlooked.

Of course, this frells with the plans of many JLA writers, since the Atom seems to have been the most popular character for many writers to have guest star with the JLA, and many of them have wanted to add Atom to the roster full time. PLus he has been a popular character over in Hawkman.

As for the issue with strangling, Ray can could have been on the other side of the door with the rope and a cell phone, call her, than hang her and jump through the cell phone, riding the radio waves to a cell tower, then the electricity back out of the phone.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 11, 2004 6:13:48 am PST #6373 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

CaBil, if your theory about my question is right, then it falls into the LAME (or possibly LAMER) column. The whole scene with him coming to rescue her becomes a really stretching for it misdirect (and one as old as THE MURDER OF ROGER ACKROYD), and if it was getting back together with Jean that was the goal, why the scary scene at the end of #6?

I'll see how it plays out, but this may be up there with dropping a fake alien on New York for disappointments (although that conclusion ended up having ancillary pleasures).


DXMachina - Nov 11, 2004 6:20:30 am PST #6374 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I had a problem with the fact that Atom could travel to a wireless phone. He even talks about how he rides the electrons through the wire. He don't say nuthin' about ridin' no radio wave photons. Of course, that would apply to fiber optic lines, too. It actually would make a nice story idea, Atom thwarted in his travels by modern phone technology.

Frank, As far as I know, only Duplicate Boy (same 31st century alibi as Violet) can duplicate powers. Except, you know what else could? An Amazo could do it. Plus, evil, and even referred to in the first issue.


DXMachina - Nov 11, 2004 6:24:12 am PST #6375 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Frank, I mentioned Roger Ackroyd in my LJ. Atom has been a narrator for a good part of the series, and he's stated that he thought Dr. Light did it. Going from there to Atom as murderer would be playing terribly unfair with the readers.

You know who else can shrink and is a misogynistic prick? Ultimate Hank Pym. Of course, wrong universe, but...


CaBil - Nov 11, 2004 8:52:12 am PST #6376 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Well, in the DC universe, there is also the superman foe Parasite, along with whatever foes Atom may have had in his own series, last published in the 80s, I think...


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 11, 2004 9:04:05 am PST #6377 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Didn't Doctor Light make all those solid light JLA duplicates that the Injustice Gang was using against their heroic inspirations? Theoretically he could make one of the Atom as well ...


Holli - Nov 11, 2004 9:20:58 am PST #6378 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

DX, I had the same though as you re: Amazo. It would explain a lot-- he'd have to be duplicating villains' MOs and powers as well as heroes, though, and I don't know if that's possible. And that still means there's someone else pulling the strings.


CaBil - Nov 11, 2004 10:27:54 am PST #6379 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Yeah Matt, but he didn't duplicate their powers...