Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


sumi - Sep 22, 2004 5:12:11 pm PDT #6014 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I don't know.


DXMachina - Sep 22, 2004 5:14:00 pm PDT #6015 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Ah, yes. Another explanation that MAKES NO SENSE. Comic logic is insane troll logic, isn't it?

How many times did Buffy die again?


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2004 5:16:56 pm PDT #6016 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How many times did Buffy die again?

There's a reason for where that phrase was born.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 22, 2004 5:17:50 pm PDT #6017 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

How many times did Buffy die again?

Did she flatline after getting shot by Warren? I honestly can't remember.


sumi - Sep 22, 2004 5:20:58 pm PDT #6018 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Was there time travel involved?

I don't think that she did die when Warren shot her --but she was dying so -- umm, twice?


DXMachina - Sep 22, 2004 5:31:42 pm PDT #6019 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Was there time travel involved?

Nah, that was Sahjahn and Holtz.


P.M. Marc - Sep 22, 2004 9:54:23 pm PDT #6020 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Sumi, at least Roy's stopped *sleeping* with the bad guys... and Rose used to be one of the good guys, once upon a time.

She came back to the present eventually for various Bart-related reasons other people can explain better than me.

Bart, being born all extra-tied-in to the Speed Force and all, was aging rapidly "at two, he looked ten" and all that. The government was raising him in VR, and Iris figured out they had no intention of actually helping him, so she spirited him back to the past where she sought Wally's help. At some point, we met Bart's mother, and learned that the Bad Government Head Dude was *her* father, thus Bart's grandfather. And, err. More stuff. It's complex.


Tom Scola - Sep 23, 2004 3:37:27 am PDT #6021 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

According to this Metafilter thread, it's Nightwing's 20th birthday.


Steph L. - Sep 23, 2004 4:50:35 am PDT #6022 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, going back to the scene from a couple of weeks ago where Leslie is checking Gotham adoption records, I have a thought. Probably a thought that everyone else has had, but I haven't heard anyone say it yet.

In yesterday's Batgirl, when Batgirl asks Leslie if she's seen Spoiler, based on the first panel of Leslie's reaction, I'm thinking that Spoiler is actually Leslie's biological daughter. Though, is there any actual canon evidence one way or another that Steph is or is not adopted?


sumi - Sep 23, 2004 4:53:30 am PDT #6023 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Wow.

Teppy -- I hadn't considered that at all.